|Previous: ecm elf text||Up:||Next:|
2008-10-12 [arthemis_]: Thank you :)
2008-10-12 [Linn Scarlett]: But the contest is about Elves as in Legolas' kin, I think. It's not about the title, its about the content *blinks*
2008-10-12 [Jitter]: I think we're only allowed one entry :)
2008-10-12 [Jeccabee]: aww
2008-10-13 [arthemis_]: we are? Ow... which should I put down then... Hmmm
2008-10-13 [Jitter]: I liked the new one better :C
2008-10-14 [arthemis_]: There :) Thanks you all for helping me choose!
2008-10-14 [Jitter]: Weee!
2008-10-14 [Jeccabee]: I like that one...it's more dynamic! though it has less color (than the other one), it's still awesome!
2008-10-14 [Jitter]: Oooh look at that shiny thing on her head <3
2008-10-14 [Morphea]: Thank you :) but it is just a placeholder ;)
2008-10-14 [moira hawthorne]: placeholders are not necessary... the contest closes by date not number of entries... and if its just a placeholder than it really shouldnt be up... or it should be counted as your entry ...to be fair everyone has to finish on time...
2008-10-15 [moira hawthorne]: yeah some poeple put up a WIP of their entry to get some feed back on it... others just put up old art as a place holder as a vanity
2008-10-15 [arthemis_]: call me naive... but they do?
2008-10-15 [Yuriona]: There's no need to be so catty about it [moira hawthorne]. Placeholders may not be necessary but there is no rule against it either. I would suggest that you remember the old adage 'if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all' or you may find yourself banned from future official contests.
Stating your opinion is one thing but being unnecessarily insulting and condemning is bordering on being an asshole. Please choose your next words carefully because both the council and the guards are getting tired of having to deal with your continual flaming of other members.
2008-10-15 [moira hawthorne]: I wasnt insulting or condemning or flaming anyone... I was just stating facts... and my opinion of them... if anything its me being picked on... so if you want to ban me from entering contests.. go ahead... there are many people who are upset with how the contests are being run... that just dont speak up... and ive been the one of the people encouraging them to continue to enter... so ban me... and than you will cry again that people arent entering
2008-10-15 [Yuriona]: And again I say that you should think about what you are saying before you say it. I also believe that your personal vendettas are better kept to private messages and/or wikis and not on public ones. Though I am curious: isn't stating 'facts' and expressing your 'opinion' what got you banned from the Y! gallery?
Then those people should stop spreading rumours and state their concerns on either the Assembly or the Council so those concerns may be properly addressed. Sitting around and complaining or starting conspiracy theories with little or no proof or insight won't help anyone here. If members truly are concerned with things are handled then they should have the courage to say so rather than hiding in the shadows talking behind their hands about how corrupt the council is.
2008-10-15 [SilverFire]: there are many people who are upset with how the contests are being run
You mean as fairly as we can manage? I'd be upset with that too. Or maybe they're upset that we don't get paid to run these contests for them? I definitely share their sentiment on that. :P (I'm just teasing).
I know we make mistakes, but we really do try our hardest to be fair. But 'fair' is subjective and we can never please everyone. We go by our principles, but if other people have different principles then obviously they disagree with our decisions. I just wish they'd respect that just because those decisions aren't decisions they agree with, doesn't mean that we're deliberately being mean, or unfair or anything like that. I also wish they'd speak up when they think there's a problem, so we can actually sort it out, instead of just sulking about it, or bringing it up when it's too late! >_< I guess I need a lot of shooting stars for all the wishes I have about contests. :P
2008-10-15 [Linn Scarlett]: Placeholders are like an insurance, if you don't manage your new entry you'll still have the one you already had ^.^
2008-10-15 [Jeccabee]: I've used placeholders, because I'm busy most of the time. If I dont get my entry finished, then I have something that I belive "will do"
It's what I did with this contest and also what I did with a couple of others. Nobody seemed to have a problem with the others.
I've also never had any real problem with any of the contests. I cant always enter them, and that's fine.
The thing I have a problem with is once the contest is posted on main street for voting, it seems like there is a poplularity contest going on. I've seen votes for entries that I (personally) feel are not as good as others. Now that is my personal opinion, but there are some entries that look like a LOT of work has gone into them and they are VERY well done, but they dont get the votes cause they dont go and ask their friends to vote for them. There's not a whole lot anybody can do about it, but I just wanted to rant. LOL I apologize.
2008-10-15 [Jitter]: [Jeccabee] apart from implementing a rule against vote mongers, unfortunately there's not much more we can do to avoid popularity contests unless the council decides for the winner. And believe me the bitching if this happens will be unbearable :P
2008-10-15 [Jeccabee]: LOL yeah...I know there's not much to be done...I just wanted to get that out of my system. LOL
I'd put up a rant wiki, but I'm not much of a ranter, and I dont have much to rant about here anyway. :P
2008-10-15 [SilverFire]: but they dont get the votes cause they don't go and ask their friends to vote for them.
Jeccabee if you see that going on anywhere you need to tell us since we do actually disqualify people for that. I know what you mean, that sometimes it seems like some of the less deserving entries get far more votes, but just look at some of the sites like DA any piece on there that treats certain subject matters (such as the most popular anime) are almost guaranteed to get more attention that a halfway decent piece that isn't of everyone's favourite character.
2008-10-15 [arthemis_]: Boy, now I really sound naive :)
2008-10-15 [SilverFire]: Not at all [arthemis_], :P I never really understood the point of placeholders in contests without an entry limit, either. :P I always figured you could just put the old entry up on the last day of the contest if you hadn't finished the new entry (putting it up straight away seemed a bit negative to me, as if you're predicting you won't finish it) but then, the very fact that you're having to use the old entry probably means you're too busy, so you might not have time to put it up then. XP
2008-10-15 [Sunrose]: Good stuff (art) here! :D
2008-10-15 [Jeccabee]: I guess I put my place holder up to remind myself that I've enter the contest! LOL I'm very forgetful like that. I'll enter a contest and totally forget that I did and never finish the art.
Also, [SilverFire]. I wouldnt say I notice people actually going out and asking people to vote for them, it just seems that way. Seems like they get the votes from their friends. But if I do actually witness that happening, I'll report it.
2008-10-15 [Jeccabee]: I guess I should have said, people seem to only vote for their friends rather than vote for the "best" entry.
2008-10-15 [moira hawthorne]: 14:03:04 [Yuriona]: And again I say that you should think about what you are saying before you say it. I also believe that your personal vendettas are better kept to private messages and/or wikis and not on public ones. Though I am curious: isn't stating 'facts' and expressing your 'opinion' what got you banned from the Y! gallery?
arent you the one with the personal vendetta against me... you are the one being mean to me personal... I didnt say or do anything wrong... and no I cant take this to personal messagegs b/c of personal problems with you we are both mutual blocked
as for Y!... which has nothing to do with this... other than you being mean to me... no... thats not the reason
2008-10-15 [Yuriona]: No moira. You are the one who does this to herself over and over again by saying things that are abrasive then whine that people are picking on you when they get offended or irritated by your words. That is why I suggested that you think about what you are going to say before you say it. Just because something may be 'fact' or your 'opinion' does not mean you can just blurt them out without having to worry about the consequences.
I asked for your 'opinion' about the Y! issue because I actually read the comments that lead up to your banning and found their tone similar to the ones we have seen here over and over again. I had hoped reminding you of that might make you actually think for once and possibly learn from past mistakes but obviously I was wrong since all you're doing is once again whining that I'm mean.
As well, this is the second time in a contest where you have appeared to single out [Jitter] for one reason or another. In another contest you felt it necessary to belittle her entry as simple and now you contradicted her view on 'place holders'. That could be seen as harassment if I really wanted to make a stretch. I could also construe this issue to the point where its you who have a vendetta against all crew members here on ET and do your best to make things difficult for them but then cry discrimination when they speak sternly to you about it.
And for your information, I don't have you blocked and never have. That was merely an incorrect assumption on your part. So if you wish to continue this discussion in private then by all means, message me about it.
2008-10-15 [Morphea]: I kinda feel guilty here since it was my "placeholder" which started this discussion :(
2008-10-15 [arthemis_]: Guys guys! Easy :) Please, I don't think this is appropriate for this forum here. Let's talk about something else? Like flowers and pretty butterflies and something that cheers everybody up, like the perfect Elf picture :)
2008-10-15 [nehirwen]: Hey, don't worry Morphea, it could have been mine as well. (there was already discussion about that here anyway, although I thought it was already settled O.o )
2008-10-15 [arthemis_]: Yeah, don't feel guilty [Morphea]. I like your "placeholder" very much :) although I'm not sure if it follows up the rules for entry as it has no background and stuff. Maybe it will be considered too sketchy... But I love it :)
2008-10-15 [Morphea]: Oh well.....I would gladly take it down if that would help the situation.....
2008-10-15 [Lothuriel]: No need to feel guilty [arthemis_]. No need at all. As for this being the appropriate "forum" it is. This is why we have comments boxes open in official wikis. We want people to feel comfortable enough to ask the Crew questions about contests and rules. It is regrettable that some feel the need to flame us over and over again but, be that as it may, we are only human and we are only here for the good of Elftown. ^__^
2008-10-15 [Yuriona]: I hope so too! I haven't even started my entry yet... >_>
2008-10-15 [Yuriona]: ACK!!! Now I need more towels! x)
2008-10-15 [Morphea]: oh...goodie...
2008-10-15 [Jitter]: Linn's and Lin's (ok lol) have no background as well :)
2008-10-15 [Linderel]: I'd have died if I'd had to do a background xD
2008-10-15 [Jitter]: I'm still making another entry too :P
2008-10-15 [Linderel]: This is as good as my work gets at the moment... I hate the face xD But I like the hair. And the ear. Especially the ear.
2008-10-15 [Morphea]: *slobbering*
2008-10-15 [Jitter]: I like it too Lami :3
2008-10-15 [Linderel]: Bwee. :3
2008-10-16 [arthemis_]: hihi It's indeed one damn sexy elf :D If I may say so *angelface*
2008-11-04 [Morphea]: I kinda have to agree there...
2008-11-04 [Jeccabee]: yeah...she reminds me of the girl from Princess Mononoki (sp?)
She was "raised" by wolves, but was still human.
2008-11-04 [Rook.]: sorry. I don't beleive they specified if it is as you percieve them to be or not. this is how i percieve elves.
2008-11-05 [Iske]: Not again hey guys , we already had an argue about what's an elf... (wings / no wings ) but I have to say this time it reminds me more of an indian girl... the clothing and those wolfs.. give her pointy ears and it wil be a lot better already
2008-11-05 [Rook.]: I'll work on it... but my scaners broke, and I need to wait for the school to send me a new one, and that wont be until january... :S I don't nkow what to do... unless someone here wants to add them on for me?? Is that even 'legal'?
2008-11-05 [arthemis_]: Maybe you can take a digital photo shot of your (new) picture and upload that? I don't think it's allowed for somebody else to modify something on your picture in an official contest. I don't know, at least you have to say it's an commissioned piece and give all the info on the other artist and stuff. The guides sure have a better answer I guess :)
2008-11-05 [Rook.]: hmm... problem though, the only camera in teh house is mum's.... and she doesn't let me touch it... maybe I'll just take it off... its not worht tha hassel...>< oi
2008-11-05 [Morphea]: Then my real entry is done and submitted :)
2008-11-05 [Jeccabee]: ^_^ thanky
2008-11-06 [Iske]: no [Rook.] don't take it off, it is a good drawing, and like you said : this is how I see an elf. Maybe some of the others see it like that too...
there is still time enough to fix things ...
Maybe there is a scanner at the local library that you can use...
2008-11-06 [arthemis_]: I agree with you [Iske], only the description above clearly states, long pointy ears... That's a bummer, I guess...
ETA: Maybe you can say that the ears are hidden in the hair? :D
2008-11-07 [Artsieladie]: [Rook.], your piece is lovely. It is not necessary to take it down. However, I do feel similarly to several others here, that because the 'pointy ears' are not visible, it wouldn't likely go to the poll. But.... all is not lost if you can't get access to a camera or a scanner. If someone wants to help and put pointy ears on your elf, this is fine. Just add the person's name with yours with your entry. This way everyone involved in the piece is properly credited. Collaborations are acceptable as long as all involved in them are properly accredited. :)
Just a reminder: The ECM Elf Photo Session closes at midnight, Elftown time, on November 15th, 2008, if anyone is considering entering it. :)
2008-11-07 [Rook.]: i don't know who to ask, though, who could do that for me and help me...
2008-11-08 [Artsieladie]: Well, for starters, maybe someone that's watching this page will volunteer. Maybe. Do you have any artist friends here on ET that might? :)
2008-11-11 [Rook.]: Thank you so much N dear.
2008-11-11 [Jeccabee]: Oh that's awesome [nehirwen]! I brought the pic into Photoshop and tried to add ears, but I wasnt liking how they were turing out. So I gave up. But I'm glad someone was able to help.
2008-11-11 [Rook.]: me too
2008-11-12 [Rook.]: *bows*
2008-11-17 [Morphea]: oki.....change
2008-11-17 [Rook.]: ^^ very loevly
2008-11-17 [Morphea]: Thanks :D
2008-11-17 [Rook.]: No problem ^.^
2008-11-17 [*Blade*]: Hi everyone..im new to all of this, so please take it easy on me xD This is my first try at elves and paint..so i dont know if its good or bad, but ill enter it anyways xD
2008-11-17 [Yuriona]: Looks pretty good to me, especially just using paint! XD
2008-11-17 [*Blade*]: Awww, thanks [Yuriona] I didnt know if it would look good in paint, cos its not very sophisticated, so its nice to know its worked xD I might invest in a good art progran soon though, it took ages to draw this in paint xD
2008-11-17 [Yuriona]: You're welcome! :) Yeah, painting with a mouse is hard! ><
2008-11-18 [Jeccabee]: Yes welcome to ET Nayr and your entry is great!
2008-11-19 [Flisky]: *nervous laugh* I think this might have been a bad choice of drawings for my first *cough*officia
2008-11-19 [Jeccabee]: oh wow...I just looked at the close up/full image and the eyes ARE very well done! Great job! ^_^
2008-11-19 [Rook.]: indeed it is
2008-11-20 [Jeccabee]: OOH nice Yuri!
and thanks Flisk! I know what it's like to have work sitting on the back burner for a while. There are a couple pieces I just finished this year that I started 2-3 years ago. LOL
2008-11-20 [Yuriona]: Thanks Jecca! I DID A BACKGROUND! w00t! *boogies*
2008-11-20 [Jeccabee]: LOL
2008-11-20 [Linn Scarlett]: dammitdammitda
2008-11-20 [nehirwen]: yeah, me too <.<
2008-11-20 [Linn Scarlett]: Mine's pre drow-excluded rule xD but its mostly the only elves I draw so I fear I'll have to go out of my way to draw a normal elf >.>
2008-11-20 [Jeccabee]: I knew about the drow situation. I'd like to see a "normal" elf from you. Your drows are awesome!
2008-11-20 [Linn Scarlett]: the difficulty is that nearly all drawings are story related >.> I donno if I can do normal elves (also, I'd have to get a pink skin marker xD)
2008-11-20 [Jeccabee]: could you make a drow into an elf by changing the skin and hair color? That seems to be the only physical difference. But then again, I dont know much about drows.
2008-11-20 [Linn Scarlett]: Well physically, yeah, that's true. But still >.>'
2008-11-21 [nehirwen]: Good luck with that Linn.
And I don't like my entry Jeccabee, it needs at least a proper background imo. ;)
2008-11-21 [Jeccabee]: well it still looks good to me. :)
2008-11-21 [Mom]: I sure did...best fix it.=\
2008-11-23 [Artsieladie]: Gosh! These are ALL so wonderful! ..And each one is so unique. I so enjoy and appreciate everyone's efforts and participation! :D *gives Linn puppy eyes' look* A normal elf by you? Coolsome! Is there a 'normal' elf? hehe ;)
2008-11-23 [Flisky]: This is going to be a tough contest. :)
Which is the best type of contest.
2008-11-23 [Jitter]: Indeed! ^^
2008-11-23 [Linn Scarlett]: I don't do normal, you know that Artsie :3
I could go for stereotype though *evil grin* oh yes, that might be good...
2008-11-24 [Artsieladie]: hehe Ya Ya Eh, what's normal anyway? Normal is the expected. I like a little of the unexpected meself. It keeps life interesting. ;)
2008-11-24 [Linn Scarlett]: same here >.> normal is boring
2008-11-24 [Artsieladie]: Indeed! O..O
2008-11-24 [Linn Scarlett]: .>' I am bored
2008-11-24 [Artsieladie]: Not me. I'm nevah bored.
2008-11-24 [Jeccabee]: nice fix mom...that looks better. :)
And *looks at Yuri's pic* YAY for shading! :D
2008-11-24 [Yuriona]: Yar! XD I downloaded a bunch of new brushes that worked perfectly for dat piece. Now I just wish this cold would bugger off already.
2008-11-24 [Flisky]: That looks really good, Yuri!
2008-11-24 [Yuriona]: Thank you muchly! :)
2008-11-24 [Mom]: Gorgeous picture Yuri...
2008-11-24 [Yuriona]: I've yet to find a good woodgrain brush. =( I tried making my own but I'm not so good at that yet.
2008-11-25 [Mom]: The wood grain was done on a large size pixel,lotz of colors and opacities then smudging...lol then reduce the pixels. Easy, ( only have Photoshop 5.5 so my coloring had been really yucky as of late.
2008-11-25 [Yuriona]: Wow... I wouldn't have the patience to do that Mom. Nice work! *keeps looking for easy woodgrain brush* LOL!
2008-11-25 [Alexi Ice]: ^^ Not a problem at all!
2008-11-25 [Yuriona]: We knew you could do it Mom! *snuggles*
2008-11-29 [FamousPanda]: do you get an official badge for entering the ecm comps?
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Yes, Panda . You do get official badges for entering the ECM contests.
2008-11-29 [FamousPanda]: alright, thank you =D
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Not a problem. I won a donator of writing badge for winning the Pheonix contest.
2008-11-29 [FamousPanda]: oooo
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: hehehe.
2008-11-29 [FamousPanda]: are you entering this one?
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Nope. I am not good at drawing most things, I am however entering the Werewolf contest.
2008-11-29 [FamousPanda]: ohh well you should enter this one too.. im not that great but i love entering comps.
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Me as well, but I am not good at Elfs.
2008-11-29 [FamousPanda]: eh i bet you could do it
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: I might try, don't I have until March? I shall see what I can come up with, if you do the same ^^
2008-11-29 [Yuriona]: This contest for typical elves ends on December 1 but the drow (or dark elf) contest runs until March I believe. ^__^
2008-11-29 [FamousPanda]: this one is til december 1st =/
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Oh, I got them mixed up. LOL. Ok, that is not enough time for me. I have to get my secret santa project done first...
2008-11-29 [FamousPanda]: i finished mine =D and i just wrote a poem for this one =]
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Well then I am way behind arn't I? Geeze...hehehe
2008-11-29 [FamousPanda]: you should definately go check it out =D
2008-11-29 [Alexi Ice]: Alright I shall ! ^^
2008-11-30 [Artsieladie]: Thanks, [Yuriona]! That's right, the ECM Elf Session ends December 1st, 2008, except for the ECM Drow Art, because it was just recently added and will therefore be running parallel with the ECM Werewolf Session, which runs until March 1st, 2009. I do wish we could find some more orcs, though. They are seemingly a bit scarce, as the ECM Orc Photo reveals. So, if any orcs are seen, please send them over to ECM Orc Photo ASAP, because the deadline is today. ;)
2008-11-30 [Artsieladie]: It's so nice to see you jumping right in here on Elftown and entering the contests, [LynnAnneBrown]. *smiles* Everyone, [LynnAnneBrown] is one of ET's newer members and I think she's doing wonderfully! :)
2008-11-30 [Ramirez]: Indeed!
2008-12-01 [Future Dictator]: shizzzz not gonna finish mine
2008-12-01 [Thistlewood]: I feel silly now. I thought it was done. I like it that way.
2008-12-01 [Artsieladie]: [Future Dictator], how much more time would you need? I'm flexible you know. It's more important to me to see that the art gets in, than following the deadline to the letter. ;)
2008-12-01 [Jeccabee]: love the new entries! great job guys!
2008-12-01 [Phenomenon]: Can I still enter? Just finished :S ...
2008-12-01 [Ramirez]: I believe so. Just as long as you submit it before Dec 2 Elftown time. Which is in 2 hours I believe. =O
2008-12-01 [Phenomenon]: Ah, lucky me :) thanks.
2008-12-01 [Phenomenon]: So many awesome entries... Voting is going to be hard :)
2008-12-01 [Jeccabee]: and the deadline is Dec 1...so TODAY!
2008-12-01 [Jeccabee]: lol I know what you mean. I've cut it close on a couple of contests myself. LOL
2008-12-01 [Jeccabee]: and you're most welcome! and thanky! ^_^
2008-12-02 [Phenomenon]: :) thanks
2008-12-02 [Alexi Ice]: Not a problem ^^
2009-02-21 [FamousPanda]: Congratulation
2009-02-21 [LynnAnneBrown]: Congragulation
2009-02-26 [FamousPanda]: I didn't get my badge for this contest.
2009-02-26 [Morphea]: I have not recieved mine either
2009-02-26 [nehirwen]: Everyone will receive their badge. It's a lot of work to badge people, so it will take some time. Just be a little patient please and you'll enjoy your new badge soonish. :)
2009-02-26 [FamousPanda]: I just didn't know if they had been given out yet because I received mine for the poetry. I'm not being impatient I was just wondering.
2009-02-26 [SilverFire]: I think you wonder that on every contest you enter, Panda. :P
2009-02-26 [FamousPanda]: I do, lol I like looking at my badges. I can't help it, they're shiny. =D