2006-02-28 [Yuriona]: Yeah, I have a seventh tooth that has to come out soon too plus a whole lot of old fillings that have to be repaired. >_< I will eventually have to get a partial plate or a bridge for my lower jaw because of all the gaps I have now. Sheesh...
2006-02-28 [moira hawthorne]: yah... that what was wrong with this tooth... it had 3 fillings.. than a rootchannel done.. and at the time the dentist siad it was still a strong tooth... but the rootchannel filling fell out and the whole thing just crumbled away... which is mostly my fault to b/c I let my fear of dental pain delay so long... oh well..
2006-02-28 [Elisha Kelly]: I have good teeth so I haven't been to a dentist since 2003... Though I am only just getting my wisdom teeth... never had a filling YAH!!! though I need my teeth cleaned, so I really should go :}
2006-02-28 [moira hawthorne]: just getting your wisdom teeth? ... I had my removed when I was 17... well they didnt have room to come in so they had to be removed... but they were trying... my dentist says every 6 mths for a cleaning... one a year sound good to me... but look at my teeth
2006-02-28 [Elisha Kelly]: :D I have a build up of plaque... so I need them scraped... also with our medical cover if have an annual preventive check up at the dentist, our major dental coverage increases, so I really should go... but I am to lazy.
2006-02-28 [Skydancer]: Ok, I hate to be a spoil sport, but what does this have to do with promoting or helping out SPADNAA? And I will admit to being very very bothered by medical discussions. Sorry, but at this point I am going to have to ask you to either discuss spadnaa business or take the conversation to the ET Medical Center wikis. thanks.
2006-02-28 [Elisha Kelly]: :D sorry I am a real chatter box... will move on.
2006-02-28 [Skydancer]: I am delighted to see the chatter, I just wish it was for the sake of the community rather than so off topic.. sigh.. things have been very dead here.. everyone is off doing other things or have lost interest I suppose.
2006-02-28 [moira hawthorne]: is there a ET Medical Center wikis.?
2006-02-28 [Skydancer]: No, but it does sound like a great idea does it not? Sadly I am really good at creating concepts and actualizing ideas, I just cannot keep up with everything that spirit throws at me. :)
2006-02-28 [moira hawthorne]: I think that is fairly common in creative people... more ideas than time to see each one thru! why I have something like 40 folders in my WIP folder on my computer...
2006-02-28 [Skydancer]: :)
2006-02-28 [iippo]: There is one medical wiki, but I think that is for practitioners.
2006-02-28 [Linn Scarlett]: Hmm just returned from disney X_X my life is so bussy these days, and it's freakin vacation X_X
2006-02-28 [Linn Scarlett]: same here... i only did the Selkie so far, and he's not even really naked O.o' same goes for Hrolf
2006-02-28 [Elisha Kelly]: muhahahaha can't wait to contribute... must finish to do list first...
2006-03-01 [iippo]: Enter the contest peoples! You know you want to! Dooo eeet...
2006-03-02 [Linn Scarlett]: which contest?
2006-03-05 [Paul Doyle]: I'm hoping there's a ghost of a chance I'll be getting my reference pics up here soon. My wife has been putting on a lot of weight (bothering me because of medical implications more than anything else; she had gestational diabetes) and she and I are going to get a moderate exercise routine going (we salvaged a perfectly good recumbent bike a while back, and as the snow breaks there will be more time for walks). So hopefully she'll take those lean mean reference shots of me. I feel so guilty I haven't delivered on my promise yet :-/
2006-03-05 [Linn Scarlett]: *huggs* It's ok ^_^ *whispers* I haven't taken the pictures I promised yet either :(
2006-03-05 [Elisha Kelly]: <.<, >.> me neither... :P but I hope to contribute in some other way... maybe a tutorial or something...
2006-03-06 [Skydancer]: If there is anyone in here that is good at naked flowers, I have a new wiki for flower gifts. Not open to the public yet as I would like to have a nice selection of flowers first. Eftown-Florist
2006-03-06 [Elisha Kelly]: did you want photos or artworks?
2006-03-06 [Skydancer]: They have to be usable in peoples houses, wikis and messages so they probably need to be gifs. If you can get a photo down to a gif at those sizes, I suppose it would ok.
2006-03-06 [Elisha Kelly]: kewl... I love flowers... I will see what I can do :D
2006-03-06 [eyes of frost]: Okay...this is for anyone who colors in photoshop (probably everyone). I am stuck on coloring the hair of my picture...anyo
2006-03-06 [Skydancer]: are you just coloring the hair or trying to actually make hair in PS? There are some nice hair tutorials..
2006-03-06 [Elisha Kelly]: and do you use tablet or mouse...?
2006-03-06 [iippo]: I like the florist idea... Especially when spring is nearly here and everything will be pretty and summery soon :D
2006-03-06 [eyes of frost]: Using a mouse.
2006-03-06 [TheRogue]: interesting.. i am not on any of the forums to view the wikis.
2006-03-06 [Yuriona]: :O
2006-03-06 [Skydancer]: did you ever apply for membership?
2006-03-07 [TheRogue]: applying...? howsa you doo dissa applying?
2006-03-07 [iippo]: And then people find out whether you're a fishy snooper wanting to see nekkidness, or an actual artist who will contribute and benefit from the resources. ^_^;
2006-03-07 [TheRogue]: i plan to contribute, my schedule just doesn't allow my painting endeavors yet.. i just keep getting notifications of changes to wikis i do not have access too.. my curiosity just keeps getting piqued.. XD
2006-03-13 [Kahless]: well, from my expierence, this is a great wiki
2006-04-07 [smakeupfx]: Aw, thanks so much :-) I am now a member... lets see what yall have been upto in here :-)
2006-05-27 [Skydancer]: Easy, I put your name on the forum and the members comment. If there are no skeletons hiding in your house then you get approved. :)
2006-05-27 [Viperess]: O.o oh my you looked for skeletons...
2006-05-27 [Skydancer]: Yep yep.. we have quite a few crew, staff and guards as members. They let us know if for instance the person applying is not being honest or is showing behaviours that would not be welcome in the community. :)
2006-05-27 [Viperess]: I know. Sorry I was teasing.
2006-05-27 [Skydancer]: No prob... I prefer the skeletons to be clothed in flesh, though not being clothed in clothes is perfectly acceptable. :)
2006-05-27 [Viperess]: I could not agree more.
2006-06-15 [someelf]: I am not 18 yet but I am watching this wiki, and I was wondering if I can comment in here or not, if not I'll delete this comment ^^
2006-06-15 [Skydancer]: you can comment all you want. :) the two public pages are just that.. public. :D
2006-06-15 [Skydancer]: Eyes of frost was hanging around for bit before her birthday as was scarlet.. :)
2006-06-15 [someelf]: Oh! :D Okay ^-^
2006-07-12 [theblade]: where can i attempt to join? I've done a lot of nude sketches but i havn't had very good photos to work off of but i'm over 18 now and was wondering if i could join.
2006-07-12 [Skydancer]: I will place your application before the membership and they will vote on it. :) It usually only takes a few days if you have been a good eltown citizen.
2006-07-13 [eyes of frost]: Alrighty...so who is in charge?
2006-07-13 [Skydancer]: Well, technically I and Irulan are. Why?
2006-07-13 [someelf]: You people are so lucky to be older then me >_> I envy you all o.o
2006-07-13 [Skydancer]: Well, Eyes of Frost is doing her own thing with all the nude arts. And you will be missing your youth soon enough.. :D
2006-07-13 [someelf]: Shhh :3 *Grins and hugs* ^^
2006-07-13 [eyes of frost]: Oh...okay.
2006-07-14 [5thwitch]: I'd like to join. but I've not nudes in my house (because i know there are some stupid guys that report you for porn) can I join even if I have no "nudepics" posted??
2006-07-14 [Linn Scarlett]: if you tell the guards its just artistic nudity they will congratz you, give you a banner be done wi
2006-07-14 [Linn Scarlett]: with it -- i ment to say -_- crap i havent drawn nudes in ages! hmm maybe its time to draw my twins...
2006-07-15 [5thwitch]: ohhh, nice! so I will soon put something....
2006-07-16 [5thwitch]: wow, I've just taken a look to this wiki, it's amazing! there's a lot of useful and interesting stuff. you did/do a grat job! i'm very grateful to have been accepted!
2006-07-16 [Skydancer]: I am certain we all look forward to your contributions. :)
2006-09-13 [Galain]: Is there a way for those of us who are not artists, but strongly support a respectful attitude towards nude art, to join this wiki?
2006-09-13 [Skydancer]: I can put your name before the members and they will discuss and vote on your membership. That is the usual procedure. :)
2006-09-15 [eyes of frost]: Guess what everyone? Meh birthday is coming up SOON! Which means I can finally gain membership! BUAHAHAHA!
2006-09-15 [Skydancer]: Fantastic. I expect a photo of you in the member list as part of the celebrations. :) and I will think about baking a cake too..
2006-09-15 [eyes of frost]: O.o What kind? I am all for cake! *dances*
The picture will have to wait until alas I get more film for this extreamly cheap camera of mine. Phht and I find a half way decent photographer around my college. :)
2006-09-15 [Skydancer]: Well, where are you going to school? Perhaps I can let you borrow this digi cam for a bit.
2006-09-15 [eyes of frost]: I go to Onodoga Community College in Syracuse New York. And I have a digital but it is being stupid and I have to take it to the computer guy. Thank goodness for him. And thanks for the offer! :)
Well the film camera works pretty well for how cheap it is. It has an automatic flash or you can switch it to straight flash mode. It has a short 15 second timer and the film is easy in and easy out. And it's really great on batteries!
2006-09-15 [Skydancer]: Ok, well if you need to borrow this one, it works pretty well. I used it to do quite a lot of the stock work in my stock gallery, you just have to work in its limitations.
2006-09-15 [Galain]: Sounds excellent. Thank you, Marion.
2006-09-15 [eyes of frost]: Thankyou very much! *licks*
2006-09-20 [Morningstar Rising]: Hello I would like to join.
2006-09-20 [Morningstar Rising]: Hey baby good to hear from you, me doing good and you.
2006-09-26 [dayah]: thought the name was familar...hi morningstar...
2006-09-26 [Morningstar Rising]: Hi sweety how you doing?
2006-09-26 [dayah]: doing good...been busy...
2006-09-26 [Morningstar Rising]: I know what you mean, I have been busy lately too.
2006-09-26 [dayah]: child driving me crazy...so need a day away from him
2006-09-26 [Morningstar Rising]: Laughing, would do both of you good.
2006-09-26 [moira hawthorne]: Im having a night... luckily it is only a night...
2006-09-26 [smakeupfx]: Have a knight instead
2006-09-26 [Morningstar Rising]: well one night is good too.
2006-09-27 [moira hawthorne]: my knight is workin... the royal terror is sick... and if he doesnt brush his teeth for bed... he is gonna get a royal whoop ass! tonight is a night for duct tape!
2006-09-27 [Morningstar Rising]: *laughing* You really need some time off.
2006-09-27 [smakeupfx]: My rents always used Benedryl as a toddler knock-out agent hehe
2006-09-27 [moira hawthorne]: my son get MORE hyper when he is sick.... medicine or not... but he is in bed now... *sigh* time to relax... than do some clean up and hopefully Ill have the energy to draw tonight!
2006-09-27 [Skydancer]: Not to be a spoil sport or anything but could we sort of keep things on topic? I keep all of the spadnaa wikis on watch so I can keep them updated and take care of work that needs to be done and this chatter is in all honesty just adding to my work.
2006-09-27 [smakeupfx]: perhaps not perfectly on topic, but I was typing naked ;-)
2006-09-27 [Skydancer]: you do know we have spadnaa forums for general chatter, right? chuckle...
2006-09-28 [Skydancer]: Its ok, it is just that I have huge lists of things to go through everytime I log on and I try to keep things to topic as much as possible so I can spend my time efficiently. :)
2006-10-14 [SilverFire]: could you consider allowing me to be a general member, please?
2006-10-21 [Kahless]: open voting?
2006-10-21 [Skydancer]: Voting is always in the forum as per the usual procedures.
2006-11-09 [eyes of frost]: I would like to go about starting my membership please! *dances*
2006-11-09 [Skydancer]: Okie dokie, give me 30 seconds.. :)
2006-11-10 [eyes of frost]: WOOT!
2006-11-11 [DarkJenni]: dum, de....de, dum.
2006-11-13 [eyes of frost]: ...I can't find my gallery...
2006-11-13 [Skydancer]: Yep, I send her a direct link to it, thank you for informing her also though. More participation is always a good thing.
2006-11-13 [mondo86em]: No problem, just wish I had more time to be more active.
2006-11-13 [Skydancer]: Trust me, I understand, I wish I could find all the stuff that is scattered in the moving boxes I am trying to dig through so I can get my computers back up to do artwork.
2006-11-13 [mondo86em]: I'm so happy my wife's getting/lettin
2006-11-13 [Skydancer]: You could put a notice in the forum and see if any one can use them. Of course getting them to the person might be a bit of a saga. There usually are good organizations around that do refurbishing for homebound and disabled folk also you could donate them to.
2006-12-02 [WindHawk]: I wanted to thank Skydancer for the invite! Now what do I do to start becoming interactive with this forum and contributing art?
2006-12-02 [The_Soulforged]: Has anyone got a source for nude drawing. Here we got a good figure referance but I'm asking of a guide, how to draw from referance in basic form. I'll start with pencil then color it wit Paint Shop Pro. I can still hardly make successful drawings..
2006-12-02 [Skydancer]: There is no specific Nude drawing. What you are talking about is basic figure drawing and learning anatomy, the various angles and forms to the figure and so on, that is quite sincerely nothing more or less then basic art classes. The things that every artist that intends to work with figure and forms has to study. There are hundreds of books out there on the subject of the figure. Check with you local library for instance, and start with a barbie doll. Seriously. A doll can be posed, lighted and makes an excellent practice venue. Of course if you can get a more accurate figure representation in a doll that would be better, but barbies and their kin are cheap, abundant and easy to find.
2006-12-14 [Rook]: Too bad their horribly disproportione
2006-12-14 [Skydancer]: True, but there are more accurate ones if you look around a bit. The main point is though that the questioner apparently does not have a grasp of the concept of developing basics and actually learning to draw in the first place. :) That was my point.
2006-12-14 [The Sadist]: hello everyone. i've been told this is the place to go when you see the beauty in the natutral body?
i sketch, draw, photo and manip lots of pictures involving pieces or whole bodies. if you let me join here, then maybe i could learn more and faster.
2006-12-14 [Skydancer]: Membership application placed before the membership. :)
2006-12-14 [The Sadist]: Was it a good enough application?;)
2006-12-14 [Skydancer]: Oh sure, better than most actually. :)
2006-12-14 [The Sadist]: im glad. lets see how the other members feel about it..;)
2006-12-17 [EmeraldGrizzly]: Hey! I walk once more! My first artistic nude pictures should be coming in the the next few weeks (need to get to my friends house a few hours away to use his developing equipment). I took them inside and out, though the ones outside were... very cold *shivers*.
2007-02-06 [Shjahjdahdvwa]: can i be a member now that I am 18?
2007-02-07 [Skydancer]: someone be so kind as to put these folk in the forum for discussion, thanks. :)
2007-02-07 [Shjahjdahdvwa]: I guess not :-/
2007-02-07 [iippo]: He didn't mean you'll be added to the forum yet - he meant that the members will consider you.
2007-02-07 [Shjahjdahdvwa]: Oh! alrighty, I have time!
2007-08-26 [ArticTiger]: Hi :D I had an issue with loggin in here but Tadda I'm in Yes!. Anyways. Hmm I draw a lot of different styles of pics.. my latest ones are Artistic nudes & this time around learning to draw a bit more realistic :D yea.. A true challenge there.
2007-08-26 [Skydancer]: Hello AT, folks, ArticTiger is a lady I know from Deviant art, and I think you will find her a good one for the group.
2007-08-26 [iippo]: Welcome to the bunch, ArticTiger! :)
2007-09-01 [EmeraldGrizzly]: Yes, many welcomes *bows*
2007-09-30 [Skydancer]: Ok folks, I have added a lot of new material to the reference and I will be adding more as I can. So drag out your muse and get busy doing something :D
2008-03-26 [someelf]: Sky<3 You forgot I wasn't member yet :] ^_^ But I like to be though now :]
2008-03-26 [Skydancer]: wayyyyyyight a minute.... you should be... hmmm goes to look at the darned forum.... well there then, now its official, Welcome!!
2008-03-27 [someelf]: Thankii yous ^_^ *hugs and hops around*
2008-03-29 [Linn Scarlett]: Hmm i've gotten busy lately *yawns* did some sketching and all that
2008-03-29 [Linderel]: *pops in* I think I should like to join. :3
I've been becoming a bit braver about things like this in the last year or two, and I imagine this little society could help draw me further out of my shell.
2008-03-31 [someelf]: *Pets Linlin and waves her hand* Me too :] *giggles and hugs her* :3 we're brave lil' puppy's :D
2008-03-31 [Skydancer]: yes, you both have your own spadnaa galleries now so you can put your selves or your work in there, and you can add yourself to the member gallery, and Lin has already added herself to the reference gallery :)
2008-03-31 [someelf]: *working on it* ^__^
2008-04-06 [Linn Scarlett]: *strikes a pose and flexes* I've been on a drawing roll lately
2008-04-07 [Skydancer]: Good, we need some activity in here :)
2008-04-23 [spincrus]: It's been a year since I haven't taken a pen/tablet pen/pencil to my hand to draw anything... Work really gets to my social life and the worst of all, my hobbies. But busy season is over (B.S., it'll still be busy but hopefully not like the last 3 months) and I want to start contributing again.
What I'm thinking is, get out my anatomy books and start practicing like mad. I think I'd be able to share my work with you guys :)
2008-04-24 [Yuriona]: xD Awesome! My own drawing has been sorely lacking too so I know how ya feel.
2008-04-24 [smakeupfx]: I haven't felt like working for months :-( anyone have any extra inspirato? ;-)
2008-04-24 [Skydancer]: Well, we have a lot of new reference work added to the galleries and I do mean a lot.
2008-04-24 [Linn Scarlett]: Since last year I've made some real leaps with my anatomy skills I think and I found a bit of a style with my own twist t it that I like.
2008-04-24 [spincrus]: I'm not a member of SPADNAA as of yet and am not insisting on it until I actually start to produce something, but once I start to get my hands on some paper and pencil, I'd like to :D
2008-12-03 [JaeMarix]: Why is you people all so quiet o.~
2008-12-03 [Skydancer]: thats it, stir them up, they need some naked rabble rousing!
2008-12-05 [Snap Dragon]: im a nude model!*tries to start a coversation*
2008-12-05 [Skydancer]: You are? Have any wiki of your work we can view? Are you a self portrait, stock, photographers or artists model?
2008-12-05 [Snap Dragon]: my fiance is the artist he isnt finsihed with them yet but from what i have seen they look pretty dark good
2008-12-05 [Skydancer]: nods, it will be interesting to see them then. :)
2008-12-06 [Snap Dragon]: yeah i think they will be
2008-12-06 [Skydancer]: Be sure to leave us a wiki link when you get them uploaded. And dont forget the ANNC Contest folks.
2008-12-09 [Snap Dragon]: so whats been up everyone ready for the holidays?
2009-01-03 [Rebulous]: <hopeful> Just a friendly little nudge to remind folks that I, too, have a membership request in the wings... </hopeful> :-)
2009-01-04 [Snap Dragon]: ok kool
2009-01-23 [JaeMarix]: ^.^ lol
Wonderful message contained within that banner
2009-01-23 [Skydancer]: Yep, she is quite an advocate. :)
2009-01-30 [Snap Dragon]: I love that banner! lol
2009-01-30 [moira hawthorne]: tho that piece got reported on DA and removed
2009-01-30 [Snap Dragon]: what why? it was true and funny are they prudes or what?!
2009-01-30 [moira hawthorne]: http://meltys.
from her news...
Well, someone from the dA staff told me each image with a sex toy is pornography, so they erased mine "removed without prior warning" as they say.
so it was b/c of the dildo...
2009-01-30 [Skydancer]: Some rather silly rule about having a sex toy in the image. I think personally there is some screwiness as they have other images with such items in them, after all they have an advertising art gallery and they have a fetish art gallery. Shrugs, I simply find it difficult from both angles sometimes. Though I do understand its a very hard thing to run such a huge community as they have.
2009-01-30 [moira hawthorne]: there is a mature filter... if people dont want to see such images they should use the filter... if they are viewing mater images and than complaining they are hypicritics
2009-01-30 [Skydancer]: There are small herds of those that go roaming through any online community and attack any number of targets. Body size, sexual orientation, race, age, moral or religious views. Its a wide open community as it should be and there will always be controversy and those that attempt to vandalize others or force their views on everyone. Best not to expend too much energy on them, it just empowers them. My opinion of course
2009-01-31 [moira hawthorne]: well the DA guards shouldnt either than... it the artist has the correct filters in place on the art
2009-01-31 [Rebulous]: It is not us who empower the self-appointed netcops. It is those who bend to their will, like the DA guards, who empower them. Instead of removing the image, the DA guards should gently recommend the application of the aforementioned mature filters, or go elsewhere to apply their netcoppery.
2009-01-31 [Skydancer]: DA does not have guards, its a very different community than it is here and the mature filters were in place. Lets not get into a big discussion or argument about DA here, that is a totally different place, and really, except for inviting folks over and elftowners that have galleries there, no connections. They have millions of users, and currently some 60+ million submissions to their galleries. They are also a corporation.
2009-01-31 [Paul Doyle]: OK, change of subject: what would a presidential inauguration be like . . . with everyone utterly nude? (And assuming there's some unseasonably warm weather for Washington, DC in late January . . . )
2009-01-31 [Skydancer]: I really don't know, but this community is about nude art not being a nudist...
2009-01-31 [Rebulous]: I'm confused. We don't want to discuss DA here, yet we pull artwork from DA that is making a point about DA?
2009-01-31 [Skydancer]: I have a lot of links to DA stock artists and nude artists that can be helpful to the artists and students here. But its a total waste of time to discuss DA here as its a completely different thing and all its good for as far as we are concerned is a resource for us to study, learn from and if you wish, to have a gallery on. Chattering about its rules and procedures and decisions is a waste of time and space for SPADNAA. There are some wiki on Elftown somewhere that are artists that are Elftowners on DA, but I just don't want this area to become a source of spam for the members. Only a few of us are both in SPADNAA and on DA. I am when I can, trying to get some of the better artists and stockers to come over and look at our group though. With the point being that we "are" a different sort of group and politics and popularity do not rule the day here. Thats all.
2009-03-15 [de Morte]: http://www.vid
2009-03-15 [Skydancer]: interesting, thank you.
2009-03-15 [de Morte]: I found it and thought it would be great for the people who are interested in starting out in nude photography as well as the models themselves.
2009-03-15 [Snap Dragon]: im going to get my fiance to watch this video because when its cold its hard to make a comfortable pose with out shivering or just feeling plain cold.
2009-06-14 [playslashwrite]: How come I never heard of this place until today? XD
2009-06-22 [sweet.tx.tea]: Holy. Cow. That banner is the single most amazing thing I have encountered all day.
2009-06-22 [Skydancer]: We have some really wonderful folks. both here and on DA
2009-06-22 [sweet.tx.tea]: I had no idea this community was here!
2009-06-22 [Skydancer]: I try to reach out to those that are serious, but of course I miss folks until I run across them in various contests and events.
2009-06-22 [playslashwrite]: that might explain; I rarely participate in contests XD
2009-06-22 [playslashwrite]: Thank you! ^^ But well, I always seem to have so much on my plate, that by the time I actually get to do something for a contest, it's already over XD
2009-06-22 [sweet.tx.tea]: I know the feeling. I have started to actually stop and do it right when I see it.
2009-06-23 [playslashwrite]: Yeah, that's pretty much how I get by XD