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So as you can see, this is a digital photography gallery, This was a contest earlier but not anymore; you can't enter anymore. The submissions now will be just for the sake of making an interesting themed photography wiki. If you are interested in submitting, see guidelines at the bottom of the page.

The winner is:

[Janouk] Pause

1. [shotokan_gal] London underground

2. [Elisha Kelly] Old coca-cola sign on the side of my local store

3. [Solitary Comfort] "The World we live in"


Found this little sticker on the railing bars of a bridge.. Found it quite thought provoaking.

4. [ally] 70


5. [dayah] Japan Stop


6. [~Lady Morgana~] Hardrock Cafe Warnsign


8. [Skydancer] Chariot of many adventures.

9. [iippo] City tree

10. [shotokan_gal] Saddler's yard

11. [shotokan_gal]

12. [shotokan_gal] Library

13. [Madzeri] japanese punk store-called 'sex pot revenge'

14. [Skydancer] Wandering around Biltmore Forest

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Theme: Signs. Any sign with any meaning. It can be domestic (in your house) or public (on the street), in the city or in the countryside. Yet the following restrictions apply:
a) must be contemporary, modern. No real hieroglyphs
b) the meaning of the sign should be clear to the reader/viewer. A translation must be provided for a non-English text-sign.

Examples of what we're looking for:
traffic signs, street signs, shop signs, signs indicating facilities, words and images painted on streets, signs held up by protesters, cars' register plates etc...
Examples of what we're not looking for:
self-made writing on paper (like the kind you see so often in Elfhouses), tombstones or other memorials, road-side adverts, posters, graffiti etc...

-Good quality please. You can upload it off-site (like PhotoBucket) but if that is the case, I will very likely upload the image into ET for you (you'd have to give me a really good reason not to, because PhotoBucket links can break, ET links can't unless broken by guards, and I want the images of the contest to show for all eternity).
-Good composition, interesting juxtaposition, even interesting colour/tone scheme will give your image a more favourable eye.

Rules of the house:
1.Own work only, follow Uploading Art Rules. Breakers will be in trouble.
2. No manipulation other than:
-gaussian blur/other method of making image less pixelated
-colour balance
(because all of those can be achieved with masterful photography skills, using a regular camera).
3. No violence nor nudity at all. I really can't see any point how it'd enhance a photo of a sign (unless a nudist protest?), but if you feel oppressed by this rule, discuss with me via personal message and show me the image, and I'll decide.
4. Remember the theme; any picture not following the theme will be removed without warning.
5. Add new submissions to the bottom.

0. [username] - Title of photo <-- this must be.
<img200:myimageurlhere.ext> (notice, it the piece is horizontal, use <img*200:myimageurlhere.ext>)

Username (or number or email):


2006-03-27 [shotokan_gal]: Digital photography?

2006-03-27 [iippo]: Well, if you take a normal photo and scan it in, the image probably won't be very sharp/good quality/large unless you first print it off at a huge size and then scan, but that... a little bit... infringes on the surprize. :P So basically yes, I'd prefer if people had digital cameras to take their photos with (but you can always take a normal one, scan it and say it's a digital photo now that it is digital format :P)

2006-03-27 [shotokan_gal]: I see... well a slight lack of digital camera is my problem there :P Behind the times. But been looking at a few pictures of mine which might fit your contest, and was thinking of choosing my best :) . All standard printed though at the moment (though they scan very large o_O).

2006-03-27 [ally]: You have pictures of traffic signs?

2006-03-27 [shotokan_gal]: Nuh uh :P "street signs, shop signs, signs indicating facilities..." I'm pretty sad with what I take pictures of sometimes though, people look at me strange like a right tourist or something :/

2006-03-27 [ally]: :D Hmms artsy subjects x)

2006-03-27 [shotokan_gal]: Artists are wierd XD I need a digital though, when I can afford one, my camera is so hit and miss ;_; . Though it's kinda fun to see how things come out at the end of the day.

2006-03-27 [shotokan_gal]: Anyway, for iippo's info, I'm thinking <URL:stuff/london2.jpg> with some cropping, unless I get something better. But only if she thinks the quality's ok (and should perhaps rescan it slightly smaller).

2006-03-27 [ally]: Professional photographers never use digital cameras though...

2006-03-27 [shotokan_gal]: You can get digitals which are as huge as old style awesome cameras now though, I'm sure I've seen people use them on shoots etc. Though admittedly don't know a lot about it. At one point was torn between getting a digital or something really just *nice* next. But that involves doing your own developing as often as not. It's all on the to-do list, when one has money >_> . And your bog-standard digitals are getting cheaper all the time, like all new technology.

2006-03-27 [Kileaiya]: That's a really nice picture Shotokan, London has some pretty cool signs :)

2006-03-28 [shotokan_gal]: Why thankyou ^^ My boyfriend gave me such an odd look when I took it: "you're taking a picture of an tube sign??" Hehe.

2006-03-28 [iippo]: That's an excellent image for this contest [shotokan_gal]. And ally near all professionals do use digital cameras for the way they make shots cheap: click click click click click click you take photos like mad, trusting that at least one shot will be good => No film wastage and then you can tweak the colours and stuff later on the computer. The pro digital cameras just cost cows and strawberries, so they're not that usual amongst normal humans. :P

2006-03-29 [a faerie tale]: Hmmmm....would graffiti work?

2006-03-29 [shotokan_gal]: Cows and strawberries? Interesting one that.

2006-03-29 [iippo]: Graffiti no, it's not a sign as such, it's more like art than informative.

2006-03-30 [Elisha Kelly]: I am so entering this... Though i will be good and not do my favourite trick of putting a black and white layer under a colour layer... instead I shall learn the asm functions of my digital camera... bout time that I did, and try and get the effect I want that way :D

2006-03-30 [Praise Adonai]: hey [iippo] this contest idea is awsome!

2006-03-30 [iippo]: Thanks everyone who thinks this a good idea: I think so too! :P And I took an example photo, but since we have an entry already, I don't think it necessary. But I think that after this contest, I'll render this wiki as a photo gallery of urban hieroglyphs, not unlike planet busstation and other such uber cool wikis.

2006-04-01 [Elisha Kelly]: I am gonna put an entry up... I added a border and put my signature in the border... if that is against the rules let me know and I will put up a version without the border. :D cheers.

2006-04-01 [iippo]: 'Tis ok like that. I love it :D

2006-04-03 [Elisha Kelly]: thanks :}

2006-04-03 [Solitary Comfort]: Have popped my width to 300 pixels, as this make the height (on mine) 200 pixels.. Hope this is okay. No fair that those people who chose to shoot/crop vertical images get bigger image sizes! XD

2006-04-04 [iippo]: Meh, I always confuse vertical and horizontal (in the rules-thingy), but fixed the thumbnailing now so all images have the shortest side as 200.

2006-04-07 [Janouk]: 'It's a surprize' - *wants to hug mr. Wonka*

2006-04-09 [iippo]: How funky, a triangle-shaped stop sign... "Chicken Little, how could you mistake an acorn for a stop sign!?" "Butbutbut... big acorns doesn't fly?"

2006-04-11 [~Lady Morgana~]: What do you think about neon signs? Is that cool to participate with? I also have a creepy road sign I found in canada O__O

2006-04-11 [dayah]: creepy road sign...oooh me wanna see...O___O

2006-04-11 [~Lady Morgana~]: I think it is creepy .... O__O One moment I will upload it

2006-04-11 [~Lady Morgana~]: <img300*0:>  (Thumbnailed)

2006-04-11 [~Lady Morgana~]: The houses are staring! O__O

2006-04-11 [shotokan_gal]: o_O scary houses

2006-04-11 [~Lady Morgana~]: I think so too :O

2006-04-11 [dayah]: yeah that is creepy...I wish I had another one I got when in japan. They had one with a creature on it like a raccoon. Like a dear crossing but it was a raccoon like was strange but cute...picture never came out though...sigh

2006-04-11 [~Lady Morgana~]: Oh no ... that's too bad really. :S We have some really pretty ones over here for deer .... If I take a picture of this one, I can't decide at all >___< Besides the neon stuff is not allowed O_O

2006-04-12 [iippo]: Yes [~Lady Morgana~] you can enter either the neon sign you mentioned or the creepy road sign. And today is the end of the contest so if anyone was planning entering, you needsta rush. :3 (I will wait for You [~Lady Morgana~] to enter because you were here with a question before the deadline and I was slow to answer... so technically the contest ends when [~Lady Morgana~] enters)

2006-04-12 [~Lady Morgana~]: Awww thank you so much! Now I have to decide ... *tries to think* .... actually I think I am going to use the neon sign because I think it is the funniest thing I've ever seen! XD

2006-04-12 [iippo]: That is the funniest thing ever! But it is really small :/ Do you have a larger version of the file? I can give you the wiki-privs for this time (I usually don't because unlike [Sunrose], I can't check if a person has any past violations)

2006-04-12 [~Lady Morgana~]: [Sunrose] was last seen 16 minutes ago, maybe I could still try to ask her!?

2006-04-12 [~Lady Morgana~]: Now this picture should be big enough! :D

2006-04-12 [iippo]: :) Indeed! I'll wait til the end of today to close the contest.

2006-04-12 [~Lady Morgana~]: I just wonder but you wrote that the end of the contest is the 14th, today is the 12th though ....

2006-04-12 [iippo]: :O What the hack am I messing about?! >.< You are right. I just somehow managed to be under the impression that today is the 14th... X_x So. Uhh, yeah, ignore everything said about that closing-the-contest... XD

2006-04-12 [~Lady Morgana~]: Hahaha don't worry, that happens to me all the time ;)

2006-04-12 [dayah]: Lady, I love that sign...that is awsome...

2006-04-12 [~Lady Morgana~]: I thought so too when I saw it XD It is great.

2006-04-12 [playslashwrite]: some really cool signs here XD love the hard rock cafe sign ^^

2006-04-12 [~Lady Morgana~]: *^.^* Thank you. Hehee I like the arrangement of your picture XD

2006-04-12 [playslashwrite]: *bows ^^ * merci ma cherie ^^ it was taken on a little island during our holiday in italy:)

2006-04-12 [~Lady Morgana~]: Oooh awesome! Hehehe pizza :P I never went to a warm place O__o

2006-04-12 [playslashwrite]: :O poor thing ^^ this year Crete is on the menu ^^

2006-04-12 [~Lady Morgana~]: Yes i know :P I think I will go back to the rainy england ^^

2006-04-12 [playslashwrite]: which is a lot of fun too :p

2006-04-12 [dayah]: wheres your picture trennas...its not there? * looks around seaching for it*

2006-04-13 [iippo]: It's on the page with the other submissions... *points up*

2006-04-13 [playslashwrite]: yesh its right there:) if you cant see it, you have to clean up your cookies and log in again ^^

2006-04-13 [iippo]: It's a bit on the smaller side though. You wouldn't happen to have a larger version? >.O And I just only noticed that the same goes for [dayah]'s and [Elisha Kelly] entries. Any chance of a larger file lying around somewhere?

2006-04-13 [playslashwrite]: its 500 pixels wide:p seems big enough to me :)

2006-04-13 [iippo]: 500 pixels is 11 centimeters (4.5 inches).

2006-04-13 [playslashwrite]: oow wait its 450:p and well, its for this contest only.. if it were for printing (which it is not) i would put up a larger one:p

2006-04-13 [iippo]: But that image would make a splendid print. Do you at least mind uploading it to ET? I intend to keep this page viewable and addable later (as a gallery), and I dearly hate broken links...?

2006-04-13 [playslashwrite]: thank you for saying so :) I dont mind uploading it to ET, i do mind i uploaded it to my personal webspace gallery (on here that is Celluloid Memories) and that will be here for a long time:)

2006-04-13 [playslashwrite]: ill see what i can do about making a larger version though :) maybe you should put up the size you're aiming for:p

2006-04-13 [iippo]: I didn't put any size-guidelines in case they'd scare off potential entrants. I'm not forcing any size and I won't deny a smaller image from winning or anything, I'm just a fan of good-quality images, and I encourage people to upload large files where I can.

2006-04-13 [playslashwrite]: *shrugs* fine by me:)

2006-04-13 [iippo]: *giggleglomps*

2006-04-13 [playslashwrite]: yipes!!!:p

2006-04-13 [iippo]: Excellent work [Janouk]!

2006-04-13 [Janouk]: ^_^ I went out on the streets today to shoot some urban hieroglyphs. Then I got home, took a look around and: Hey, there are hieroglyphs around here everywhere! :-)

2006-04-13 [iippo]: I'm so proud of you *sobs* :)

2006-04-13 [Janouk]: :-p Aww, thank you!

2006-04-13 [dayah]: I see everyone else but theres not even a link or anything for Trennas...don't make sense to me...

2006-04-13 [Janouk]: It's probably because he didn't upload it to Elftown.

2006-04-13 [dayah]: probably...has to be why I don't see it...oh I can't upload a larger picture...cus that as big as it is..sorry..

2006-04-13 [shotokan_gal]: Ohhh nice [Janouk], really original interpretation ^^

2006-04-13 [Janouk]: :) Thanks shotokan!

2006-04-14 [playslashwrite]: nice one [Janouk] ^^ have you tried to clear your cookies [dayah]?? thats the only thing i know off that works when you cant see a wiki completely:)

2006-04-14 [iippo]: *gets paranoid now* What if there are wikis I don't see all of? *panicpanic* :P

2006-04-14 [playslashwrite]: the end of the world is nigh!!

2006-04-14 [iippo]: Ooo, indeed. Although, to be absolutely fair, I'll probably close tomorrow morning, just to make sure no one complains "it was still the 14th in my homecountry!" And I don't intend to stick around until midnight X_x

2006-04-14 [playslashwrite]: but i could always upload a larger version later i hope? for i have to leave now -_-

2006-04-14 [iippo]: That would be spendificious :)

2006-04-14 [playslashwrite]: i take it that means okay :p

2006-04-14 [~Lady Morgana~]: Today is the 14th. Maybe the 15th by now :P

2006-04-15 [iippo]: Closed now. :3 Wait for the judging process to finish.

2006-04-15 [Janouk]: :o

2006-04-15 [playslashwrite]: *waits exited:p*

2006-04-16 [Elisha Kelly]: :O I don't have a bigger size file no more cause my puter died... is sad... but man last time I looked here there was only two signs... this really took off while I was gone.. :D

2006-04-16 [dayah]: ooh new photo contest hidden paradise

2006-04-16 [playslashwrite]: oooh like the new contest as well ^^

2006-04-19 [iippo]: Must not forget this place. ^_^;; Sorry for taking a while, uni's back >.<

2006-04-19 [playslashwrite]: a valid excuse:p

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: I might go and start school again ... it is a weird thought, since I am out for like 3 years now ...

2006-04-22 [iippo]: I like school/education. It's a valid excuse to not work.

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: Haha yes that's a good point :P

2006-04-22 [dayah]: okay, the contest if over...did anyone win...sorry just wondering....:D *huggles everyone*

2006-04-22 [iippo]: Sorrrryyyyyy, I will I will I pwomise. O_o;;;;;;

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: *huggles [dayah] back* 

2006-04-22 [dayah]: hehe tis okay ippo *huggle iippo* Awe thank you lady I loves hugs *gets all warm and fuzzy* nice to be on elftown:D

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: Hehehe I love hugs as well :D

2006-04-22 [dayah]: my family is a hugging family,, but I think I am the only one who things trees need them too..*points to self* is a litteral tree hugger...hehehe

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: No worries about that. Actually trees are very earth bound ... they are taking your bad energy and turn them into positive if you let them do it. I'm a pagan ^^

2006-04-22 [dayah]: I am actually studying, or rather tryin to study up on that, yeah I love trees...they are my friends....I huged one before they cut it down, a baby tree started to grow back from its place..its was so knew it was love...:d

2006-04-22 [iippo]: do trees die of old age? There's one pretty old one and it looms over my house.

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: Aww that sounds awesome :D Hmm, no most of the time they die because of illnesses or because people cut them down. Remember the old ones, they are 1000 years old!

2006-04-22 [dayah]: yeah...trees are ancient beings...I live longer than humans, unless silly humans cut them down...or those bloody darn worms, cattapiters what ever they are kill them...nasty things they all must die..leave my trees alone...grrr:D

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: Not only humans or bugs do it, trees can have cancer for instance ...

2006-04-22 [dayah]: they can get cancer..I never knew

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: Yes and some other nasty illnesses ... poor trees >__<

2006-04-22 [dayah]: yes poor trees...:(

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: *hugs them*

2006-04-22 [dayah]: just went out and huged my trees...:D

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: Awwww *^.^*

2006-04-22 [dayah]: they are my babies...::D my hubby had to cut the one down cus it was tearing up the side was soo sad...poor its falt, maybe they should just move the sidewalk sigh...

2006-04-22 [~Lady Morgana~]: That sounds like a good idea!

2006-04-22 [dayah]: yeah...thats what I least the little ones that keep growing in our back yard get dug up and taken out into the country and planted...all but one so far had died...

2006-04-23 [~Lady Morgana~]: Oh no that's sad :(

2006-04-23 [dayah]: yeah...they have to move them from the back yard cus they will grow up into the house and messe it up...sad really, not there faults...but at least we try to save them

2006-04-23 [~Lady Morgana~]: I understand. I am glad that you try to save them.

2006-04-23 [iippo]: I want to eat all the trees. And the fluffy animals.

2006-04-23 [~Lady Morgana~]: Hmm that could cause stomachaches :S

2006-04-23 [dayah]: lol.have you ever dreamed of eating marshmellows and woke up wondering where your pillow is? hehe

2006-04-23 [iippo]: Meh, I once dreamed that I fought a great colourful hairy spider, and after killing it with a sword I had to eat it so it wouldn't re-incarnate and try to kill my sister again... and when I woke up I had a horrible taste in my mouth for the rest of the day :S (Sadly, this is not a made-up dream, and actually happened T_T)

2006-04-23 [~Lady Morgana~]: Ugh :S I once dreamed that a I ordered a sandwich in a restaurant, when I woke up I wondered where the hell the guy with my sandwich had gone to >__<

2006-04-23 [dayah]: lol do you beleive if you jump off a building you will wake up before you hit.

2006-04-23 [dayah]: wow..yeah dreams are weird espeicaly mine sometimes

2006-04-23 [iippo]: But the worst one is the "I had a dream I went to the bathroom"... >_>

2006-04-23 [~Lady Morgana~]: Same here ... it is the time of the month for weird dreams - at least to me >__<

2006-04-23 [dayah]: ack I hate those

2006-04-23 [dayah]: I always seemed to get attacked by wild animals...especialy by wolves and I love wolves..

2006-04-23 [iippo]: In one dream my dog got attacked by wolves (and in other ones he's been attacked by me, several times). And in reality my neighbourgh's dog got attacked by a wolf. >.< so I'm not fond of them - nor any wild animal: I have a healthy fear and respect relationship with all wild animals.

2006-04-23 [~Lady Morgana~]: I use to have Silent Hill like dreams, if you know the games ... weird monsters eating other peoples heads and stuff like that.

2006-04-23 [dayah]: ooh I had A dream about getting attacked by wolves, I woke up and stared at the ones that hung my curtians. I was like "why did they attack me, they look so nice there"

2006-04-23 [dayah]: no some people say you wake up before you hit the ground...well I had a dream I was on top of a barn and jumped off. I could feel the air as I fell, and the thump when I hit..didn't die.. I just got up again, climbed back up on the barn and jumped off again..very strange

2006-04-23 [~Lady Morgana~]: Weird ... I drowned one, this dream was nice actually O___O

2006-04-23 [iippo]: I wake up before I hit stuff. But the weirdest one was when I was cycling through a town, and a bunch of teenagers on cycles too came by me and said "hi uncle" (I'm female >_>)...

2006-04-23 [~Lady Morgana~]: Haha oh wow, that's weird XD I was a male in one of my dreams

2006-04-23 [dayah]: hum...sometimes I think they relate to past lives..I have had some that I feel dayzavoo (sp) in ...its strange..I have been there before..

2006-04-23 [iippo]: De ja vu.

2006-04-23 [~Lady Morgana~]: I also know this feeling [dayah] ... it is also weird if you dream about something that happens later on.

2006-05-03 [Janouk]: I once dreamed that I fell in a pond wih a thin layer of ice on it, and half a year later I did, exactly the way I dreamed it...I could even predict what was about to happen next.

2006-05-03 [~Lady Morgana~]: I know what you mean ... it feel weird doesn't it?

2006-05-03 [Janouk]: Yes..Have you also got familiy members having the same thing? My father and sister say they have the 'feeling' as well some times, but my mother and brother do not know what we're talking about...

2006-05-03 [~Lady Morgana~]: Hmm ... I am not sure about my brother but my parents don't.

2006-05-03 [Janouk]: I once heard that you don't actually know it before it happens, it's just your brains being a bit confused so that they make you think you saw it before. So when something happens, your brains put it in your memory before they tell you what you see (or something ^^)

2006-05-03 [~Lady Morgana~]: But that's a deja vu ... if you dream it, you know it before it happens.

2006-05-03 [Janouk]: *nods* That causes me to not be completely convinced by the theory :-)

2006-05-05 [~Lady Morgana~]: Wich therory?

2006-05-07 [playslashwrite]: congratulations, [Janouk]!!:D

2006-05-07 [Elisha Kelly]: yay! congrats [Janouk] :D

2006-05-08 [shotokan_gal]: Woot, well done Janouk :) (to add to the others)

2006-05-08 [Janouk]: Aww, thank you! Though I think you all did a great job as well! *gives cookies because everyone's a winner :)*

2006-05-08 [iippo]: And we're open again, for gallerising. :) Anyone is welcome to submit anything, as many pictures as you wish.

2006-08-29 [shotokan_gal]: *brushes off cobwebs* is this still open for sign-type pics?

2006-08-29 [iippo]: Yes. Thank you (I was thinking of this place earlier in that chocolate page, but then went to badge someone instead o.O)

2006-08-29 [iippo]: And I just realised it was "editable by me". X_x No wonder no one added anything.

2006-08-29 [shotokan_gal]: Your comment there reminded me of this actually. I might have two, if an older one uploaded isn't too 'hand written' (though it is a public sign). Well, I can take it off if it doesn't fit specifications.

2006-08-29 [iippo]: Hand written public sign? Reminds me of a thing in Coventry... (Someone has stolen the actual street sign, and someone else has sprayed "happy lane" on the sign-holder... I don't know if the street is actually called happy lane or not :P)

2006-08-29 [shotokan_gal]: You've probably seen that one, I posted it somewhere before. It was just amusing, partly because it actually even existed ^^

2006-08-29 [iippo]: Can't remember if I've seen it, but I like it xD

2006-08-29 [shotokan_gal]: It's better in context, but even so (took them till my 4th year to put it up too!).

2006-08-29 [iippo]: My sister told me that they're school has a warning above the radiators that says "Do not sit on the radiators" and someone has added to it with a pen "no one would even consider doing that if there were some benches here."

2006-08-29 [shotokan_gal]: XD how true

2006-09-04 [iippo]: Whoa, nice lot Skydancer! Would you mind if I faff it a little, to put the horizontal ones together on one row and vertical ones on another (to make the wiki look more balanced)? Or are they in some order, like "order of seeing them"?
(I'm a compulsory wiki-faffer I'm afraid :P)

2006-09-04 [Skydancer]: you may whip them around any way you like, I don't mind.. there is no real order except the order they happened to be on my harddrive. :)

2006-09-04 [iippo]: Ok now I'm done :P (sorry for people online now for all the wiki-edits xD)

2006-12-29 [iippo]: [playslashwrite]'s entry disappeared because it was not uploaded to Elftown. >.<;;; I f00king hate when that happens!

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