2005-03-08 [Kayne]: See there is a difference between an opinion and being biased and not seeign facts. I judge you not for your believes. Believe in god all you want. But don't deny facts. That is - how shall I put this polite - typical American? Btw, is there any real proof that god exists?
2005-03-08 [deus-ex-machina]: Tears - why are you being so pathetic?
2005-03-08 [Kayne]: In days? Cool. Do you have proof for that? (I could be, I don't know.)
2005-03-08 [deus-ex-machina]: Do you realise that that amount of erosion could happen in days no matter how fast water flowed over it? Unless you're saying God got out his shovel and did it himself. It is physically impossible for that to happen. I have still to see any proof that either of these instances that disprove evolution are actually instances that are recognised worldwide.
2005-03-08 [Kayne]: Danke Deus for taking away my doubt.
2005-03-08 [deus-ex-machina]: I've taken Geography for the last 5 years... and never was I taught by such an incompetant teacher who said "God allows earthquakes and volcano eruptions to happen because humans sin". The basis is tectonic plates... which slide and MOVE and over billions of years, it would have been possible for one large continent to be how it is now, since the plates are constantly changing themselves.
2005-03-08 [Kayne]: *Knows tectonic plates from geography.* What Deus said is right.
2005-03-08 [deus-ex-machina]: The truth is - even Theologists have to accept that microevolution exists. If you consider the complexity of bigger organisms, evolution would take much longer. We adapt. We mutate. It takes an understanding of genetics and the human genome for people to understand that manipulating one gene has great effects. One little base... and whumph, everything changes. There is nothing complex or irrational that perhaps that that change could occur naturally.
2005-03-08 [deus-ex-machina]: I have also heard that Noah and his ark would have dated around 4100BC. Adam, according to you, would have needed to be over 4 million years old. That gap is a little phenominal really.
2005-03-09 [Shee A'beanne Alainn]: Alright...geol
2005-03-09 [deus-ex-machina]: Of course. And having faith is something to respect. But having faith in something you can't prove and then literally forcing your beliefs on people lacking faith is well... stupid, especially when everything those with faith come up with do not 'fit' true science, as shown above. :P
2005-03-09 [Splintered_tears]: Okay.... you say it can't be proven' right. Evolution is no more proven' then what my beliefs are.... i mean those are just ideas scientist have put into words to explain why they don't understand something. I mean you say that you've study geo. for five years right? well have you ever stoped to investigate? i mean don't certain things in this world cause you wonder.... maybe curiosity to what evolutionist are saying happened and what my beliefs say happened? The honest truth is that the evolutionist really don't know what happen anymore then i do b/c they weren't there when the earth was created themselves. Sure.... maybe the earth was created by gas, swirled with dust or whatever....
2005-03-09 [Splintered_tears]: they say happened but how do you explain how life truely came to be? I mean think about it in the bible it says god made us from dust and he breathed life into us. Doesn't that fit to you?
2005-03-09 [Splintered_tears]: Shee A'beanne Alainn is right..... Most of the are by my faith. But, i have one question to you guys.... were do think we go when we die? Is it over?.... is there another life?..... reincarnation?
2005-03-09 [Splintered_tears]: I will do more research and ttyl b/c i g2g.
2005-03-09 [lostinspace]: Well I believe when we die if we believe in God and the sacrifice he made for us and you've given you're life to him you will go to heaven.
2005-03-09 [lostinspace]: I haven't studied in the bible about volc. or earthquakes but I believe god has something to do with it. You can't really criticize us for our beliefs because you don't know our beliefs, you can't fully believe something to be the real truth without thoroughly studying other options. You may say you don't believe us or we're radicals or whatever else you want to say about us, but I believe by faith and the mercy of God and the miracles he makes in our lives everyday shows me what I believe is true. Think about this, if I'm wrong and I live my whole life believing god and die and not go to heaven then I've at least lived life happy.If you die not believing then you goto hell who really won
2005-03-09 [Slade]: ...so basically 'god' judges you if you belive in him or not when he sends people to heaven or hell- not on what type of person you are. If god is so benevolent I'd have thought he would want us to enjoy life, not be forced into believing something you don't want to with promises of paradise? As for where we go when we die, I don't see the point in worrying or caring since theres nothing we can do about it either way. Thats just my view on it though :s
2005-03-09 [deus-ex-machina]: I don't know your beliefs? A whole school education in a Catholic school in religious studies and philosophy and ethics... Oh, of course not. I just made my judgement and decided against religion being in my life, since I have no faith.
2005-03-09 [deus-ex-machina]: Go to Hell? I tend not to believe in it... Can't you see why Karl Marx could have been right? "IF YOU DO ANYTHING WRONG, YOU GO TO HELL!" - Fear tactics... Terrorism... The use of terror to get people to comply to what you want. Of course, it's not so bad now, but then hey, I guess people got a little bored with being dominated by a bunch of people who took your money, punished you for doing bad and never really gave you much back, except for being the 'opium of the people'.
2005-03-09 [deus-ex-machina]: And love, how would I PERSONALLY investigate about geology? It would be kinda of hard to do with a shovel and absolutely no equipment. But the evidence is there. Science has come on so far in only the last 200 or less years... Perhaps we will never find the reason for life - but there are enough theories out there. Obviously you just think that science still can't explain it? Of course science can explain it, but it doesn't mean it's right. But while religion is about having faith in the illogical, science is about having faith in a logical system.
2005-03-09 [deus-ex-machina]: And all the time... there is nothing to say one can't believe in God and evolution. It's not a complete contradiction.
2005-03-09 [Sagacious Turkey]: you've invaded this wiki too, huh? jerk...
2005-03-09 [deus-ex-machina]: Jerk... Wow... Matt says it best for me. Matthew 7:1-5
2005-03-10 [Shee A'beanne Alainn]: dues-ex-machin
2005-03-10 [deus-ex-machina]: And you think that isn't the first thing they teach you in philosophy? lol. And don't offend my mind. :D It doesn't like being called 'Finate', it's name is 'Chuck'. But the Bible is neither miraculous or impossible, just very improbably and people like those above who try and explain it just make it even harder for me to believe.
2005-03-10 [deus-ex-machina]: No replies? Dayum.
2005-03-10 [Splintered_tears]: Matthew 7:1-5 doesn't exactly mean what you are thinking / saying it means. It reads - "judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure and might ye mete, it shall be measured to you again." - this part basically meaning the way you act and treat other people *ergo judge other people)* is the same way you shall be judged..... going on it also reads- "And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or wilt thou say to thy brother, let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye?"- meaning basically, are you to fonder over the....
2005-03-10 [Splintered_tears]: thing other tell you they see, say, hear, believe or can you no go and see for yourself.- continued on it also reads- " Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine eye; and then shalt thy see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." .... this means nothing like the way you are try to tell us it means.
2005-03-10 [Splintered_tears]: And FYI ..... lostinspace nor i said that above that it states if you do anything wrong that you are going to hell b/c all sins are, can and will be forgiven if you take it to the lord and ask. No i'm not saying that that means everytime you feel like going and doing something that you know is wrong to have fun you can do it and be forgiven.... you have to really mean it.... you have to really be sorry for committing the sin.... we are all children of god and he will forgive us and love us as the children of god we are.
2005-03-10 [Splintered_tears]: And i didn't want to be rude earlier but most all of this has nothing to do with geo. .... it biology so all that stuff about geo. to me means nothing b/c you are just learning what the teacher are implyed to teach you.
2005-03-10 [Splintered_tears]: i g2g! i'll be back to finish later! Byez!
2005-03-10 [deus-ex-machina]: Evolution occurs in Geography, as well as Biology. I thought people knew that? And do you know the history between Bad Turkey and I? No. You don't, hun. I've studied the quote. It means exactly what I meant to say. SO yeah. And as for sins... I brought it up as a reason why people choose not to live under a wrathful God or an uncaring God (old testament, Augustinian theodicy respectively). And I'm not a child of God... I'm an ape who got clever, just like you.
2005-03-11 [lostinspace]: you say we evolve from apes over millions of years but apes don't live millions of years and if we evolved from apes why are there still apes out there? when you go to a zoo do you see the apes growing people arms NO!!!! The only people I believe ever evolved from apes right now is you cause you're acting like a baboon. I don't like people insulting my religion or my friends and what was that comment about "typical americans"
2005-03-11 [deus-ex-machina]: Well, I didn't take too kindly to you hounding down my beliefs either, especially since you have no proof that you're right. Heh. And really... Is it hard to understand that if we evolved from apes... apes evolved from something else? And evolution is not a miraculous thing that happens over night (like the formation of the grand canyon, HEH)... so why are you being so stupid? If you want to know something, go research it or listen in school, unless you're from one of those close minded places which refuse to teach evolution even as a theory?
2005-03-11 [Splintered_tears]: Well... i can't believe i am do in this but i never ment to hound down you beliefs.... i'm sorry..... now that that is over i have come back with more proof. And this proof you can read and find out about for yourself. First i want to go back and straighten one thing up with the flood theory (as you might call it) that i was talking about b/c i seriously lacked in the info. that i should've provided. the part were i said that the gates of heaven open and water rained from the sky and then i said something about it gushing from the earth.... right? well, ne ways.... that was just bible term for me the easiest way i guess for you to get that is if i break it down for you... so here goes.....
2005-03-11 [deus-ex-machina]: I can understand how God is capable of the illogical. If I had faith - I would be in awe probably as you are... I just can't find something that can inspire faith in me. Science can be repeated and proven in experiment, lol. I suppose I feel secure with it. But I don't deny that a God couldn't have been the creator of such flowing perfection. I don't believe we are here just by chance either. Not really the Design theory... but everything fits. I just don't think it's haphazard. Perhaps I fit in between science and Christianity. Philosophy/Eth
2005-03-11 [deus-ex-machina]: ground breaking science which may or may not compliment the belief that a God could exist. But just like it's impossible to prove God, it's also very hard to accomplish many things Physicists wish to prove, but they're getting there. I think if Physics compliments proof of God, it's undeniable. Physics after all, explains nearly everything within the world and why it is the way it is. I don't disagree that a God could have caused all the science. I just await proof. Until then, I will remain with my egotistical ways which tell me I am the best thing since the last great masters. :D
2005-03-11 [Splintered_tears]: Back then the earth had a water vapor canopy.... the water vapor reflected the heat which cept the earth both warm and mostly dry (having no rains and little dew in the mornings).... k... the earth (being pretty much surrounded by oceans or water) the land basically got a crack in it or the plates pushed the land causing it to peak up, which put a reasonable large crack in the earth or land. The earth or land having so much wat around it, and under it causes the water to gush-up through and it to the sky which breaks the canopy.... which cause the rain. Then as you know when the cold and the warm air collides the great winds are formed and the cold, cold water causes....
2005-03-11 [Splintered_tears]: what is at this point rain into snow/ ice/sleet mix.... ergo the ice age..... And i know you know what happened during the ice age so i'm not even going into that one...... but, looking back for just a sec. remember the part about the water gushing from the earth?..... thats were the grand canyon comes in.... think about it. think about how much, that much pressure could cause..... ergo... grand canyon was formed in days not millions of or thousands of years.
2005-03-11 [Splintered_tears]: Shoot.... the stupid bell was wrong! i still got 15 mins.
2005-03-11 [deus-ex-machina]: Hmmm, that makes more sense, but I'm not sure I've heard about water canopy. What would have kept it up and why would it be broken just because something reached up into it? And are we now talking about the same great flood around the time of Noah?
2005-03-11 [Splintered_tears]: I just read you little message up above and for once you actually sound rather nice..... i understand were you are coming from, i at one point questioned my own faith.... it was a rather long time ago, but i figure everyone goes through it to find there true being. But, do you think i would make such a big thing about this if i didn't think it was true?.... i mean i have found proof.... that i can tell you and you can see for yourself if you would just let yourself see. And i now that you right now still probably see no proof at all and like you said physics and some bio. and most geo. point toward what you have found to be your truth, but if you fit it all together with the bible ....
2005-03-11 [Splintered_tears]: then you can see that it all make sense... that it all works. If you only take the time to see it.
2005-03-11 [Splintered_tears]: Back to your message.... up there ummmm.... the earths magnetic field back then is what i think cept it up i don't have my notes with me..... and it was broken by the force of the water when it stot up and hit it.... what i'm saying is the force of the water is what caused it to break .... and yes the same flood with noah in the bible..... listen i'm really sorry but, i'm late to class.... ttyl
2005-03-12 [deus-ex-machina]: It's still easy to fit facts around fiction. Or vice versa. I can't say it makes sense, but the view previously brought forward by theologists is somewhat stronger now. And the same to you - if you look at evolution - it all makes sense. It's hard to take a first year education of it and expect to understand it, it's much more complex than that, as I'm sure you know.
2005-03-12 [Master Windu]: RACISM is WRONG we are all the same so we should fight together not againist
2005-03-12 [Noexistantanymo]: Actually.. Everyone's DNA is different.. So being all the same, that's bullshit.. Besides, I'm not like many others.. But we are all the same species though.. And skin colour is bullshit O.o It's like what? a few mg of some color pigment that differs that? o.o
2005-03-13 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: ...youre deep... I hate when people say "well if you were like everyone else you wouldn't get made fun of." and thats like telling an arab to lighten their skin (not saying that in a mean way but you guys understand right?)...it's not right...you shouldnt be made fun of for who you are and that includes skin color, religion, sexual prefrence, or ever clothes, make up, or hair color....if you think about it it kind of all goes together. Telling someone to dress a certain way so people wont make fun of them is like telling white people to dye their skin...you shouldnt have to change yourself for true friends to like you...IDK i just had to say that!
2005-03-13 [Noexistantanymo]: That actually sounds like an idea O.o I would like to dye my skin black, just to get the chance to understand where the difference really is.. You can put it in words, but you can't describe the feeling..
2005-03-13 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: yeah...my bud did that...he is white and he's like you know what, im gonna dye/paint my skin brown and walk around town and see if people say shit they normaly wouldnt...he came over that night in tears saying that he almost got killed by a white gang...it's sick really
2005-03-13 [Noexistantanymo]: Racism.. Brings out the worst in everyone.. I can't say that i don't look different on other skin colours than my own.. That's impossible.. But i give everyone a chance..
2005-03-13 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: i know what you guys mean i mean i get told off just b/c my niece married leon...and he's half...but i love himto death he is really awesome!
2005-03-14 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: i dont get that....so its now wrong to marry someone you love dearly just because they're of a different race? me and my bf [dark knight anon] have been going out for almost 6 months and there is not one day i dont get harrassed by people...even my grandparents for dating him. His mom even said the first week we were going out that he wasnt marrying an american woman and she hadnt even met me...im mean WTF?
2005-03-14 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: thats insain and its stupid i mean look at micheal jackson all he had to do was dye his skin and you would never have known he was black once before so pplz need to get over themselves
2005-03-22 [Charity Mariah "Willow" Garcia]: I'd like to join please! Racism is wrong and I'd like to join the chorus of those who agree with me!
2005-03-23 [TwiztidYoshi03]: hey everyone... i wanted to join to show how much support i am gonna give.. b/c racism is wrong and rude
2005-03-25 [X2]: Here is a film made by that fucking american neo-nazi that killed 9 pupils at hes school or something like that. (Don't ge think that i like it.) http://www.new
2005-03-26 [Sagacious Turkey]: are you dissing americans?!
2005-03-26 [X2]: no?
2005-03-26 [deus-ex-machina]: urgh... i guess he was just pointing out it happened in america? is this the fat guy from this/last week? i think he killed 7 students, a teacher and a security guard. funny really, if he's a neo nazi, considering he was far from aryan himself.
2005-03-26 [deus-ex-machina]: Well the alternative was calling him 'Chinese' although I'm not sure if he's only half-Chinese..
2005-03-31 [sapphiresphinx]: Hey, I'd like to join, are there any banners or anything? I seem to have missed them if there is : / I'm tired, sorry :P
2005-03-31 [Blue Highway]: So am I...my son woke me up at 4 am yesterday, and 5:30 am today...I feel like a zombie... But here they are: AR list3 for joyning, AR banners for banners...you might also want to check out Not a laughing matter!.. (Plugging my wiki, but it's for a good cause, hehe!)
2005-03-31 [sapphiresphinx]: Okay, thanks muchly! I'll check out your's too :)
2005-04-01 [X2]: Elftown deleted my banner (the one with kkk on it...) look at my house, it says: (Image deleted by the guards)
2005-04-02 [Sagacious Turkey]: sucker...
2005-04-02 [deus-ex-machina]: You, X2, your mom, or the guard who deleted the image?
2005-04-02 [Sagacious Turkey]: all of us!
2005-04-02 [X2]: The guards....
2005-04-03 [Ghost Lilly]: You have a few on there that have been deleted
2005-04-14 [TwiztidYoshi03]: why doesnt no one talk on here??????
2005-04-15 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: no clue lol
2005-04-15 [TwiztidYoshi03]: lol... i guess no one is here
2005-04-15 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: lol are they ever?
2005-04-15 [TwiztidYoshi03]: not that i know of... i guesss its me and you again... lol
2005-04-15 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: lol yep oh well this place isalways boring but i think im gonan go on the chat room on pro pink army
2005-04-15 [TwiztidYoshi03]: oh... lol.... ok see ya then
2005-04-15 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: kk later!
2005-04-18 [West Coast Punker]: hey i love this wiki but later today i got pissed off cuz someone mest up the Mexican Pride!! wiki and it made me pissed cuz im mexican and i just think how cmeone juge u because of ur skin or what u belive in its just so freaking fucked up and it just makes me mad how someone could do that
2005-04-23 [ansch_oz]: we are all san and pissed in mexican pride, and for me its not the firt time that someone insults me with those fucked up comments, there so stupid i mean really... color of skin makes someone inferior! i mean... its just so sad... it'll be nice if this wikki be friend with mexican pride!! and latino pride
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: i dont think it is right when people are judged by their skin color... it is a disgrace to all different kinds of people.... people shouldnt never be picked on just cuz of their skin color....
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Why not?
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: why not what???
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Why not judge based upon their skincolour?
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: you shouldnt its not right... they are just like everyone else.... same person but different skin color... who cares about skin color
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: I do. Murders are like anyone else, they just murder. See how unlogic your logic is?
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: O.O
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: you know what i mean.... ok murders are people that dont know who they really are... i dont know where you are coming from but race is different... i dunno why you are racist and i dont care if you are but you need to show respect
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: That would be Murderers.
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Yes, it should be. But it isn't. Typo. Who says I'm not showing respect? Why is race different? Oke, let's change the example. Assholes are born assholes - your character is in your genes (?). So actually you have no right to hate an asshole. It isn't his fault.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: now what are you talkin about panda... yes murders they are just people that maybe had a messed up life bein picked on or they dont know their way around.. but its not about their skin color
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: b/c you go off on people of their skin color and its not right like i said be4... race is different from many outputs like they alwayz get put down from their skin colors..
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: So why is race then different?
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: ok you dont get it.. i refreased it wrong.. race is different in wayz... but not toward their skin color
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Race is different but not in skincolour? Nice one.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: ok nvm about that.. you are never gonna get it... like in what i mean by race is their personality not by their skin color.. if you dont get it oh well
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Who says I don't get it? I'm just wondering why you think it's different.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: im not sayn like race is different.. but i mean people put them as different cuz of their skin color
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: They are different. They have another skincolour. The most obvious different there is.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: so who cares if they have a different skincolor????? you shouldnt judge people by their skincolor
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: If I say to a black man: you are black. I jugded him. Damn, I must be racist.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: thats not what i meant... i meant by judin them is like ur a fuckin "n" .. then you would be rasict... but if you go up to a black man and tell him that he is black that person would look at you weird and say yes he is... hes not gonna pound you for sayn hes black
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Why shouldn't he be proud? I'm proud for being white. If I told someone I don't like he's a fucking "n", am I a racist then?
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: yes you are rasict then b/c you juged him but his skin color.. that is where i am gettin to he would be proud he is black.. thats why he wouldnt pound you to the ground that you said hes black
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: I'm a racist for insulting someone I don't like? Damn, their are a lot of racist people in the world.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: if you insult one person that is black or whatnot.. confrontin him like that.. weather you like him or not you shouldnt do that b/c that is consider racist
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Lmao. I can't insult a black person for nigger if I don't like him? Rotflmfaowdwav
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: you are still bein racist about it... b/c that term "n" means iggortant person or like other people like to put it an iggorant black person that doesnt know shit... thats why you never call a black person that unless you are really racist...
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: If I want to insult someone, I'll insult him. And I'll use everything I can. You aren't a racist when you call a black man a nigger. You are racist when you call a black man a nigger because he's black. World of difference.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: but it means the same damn thing.. that world callin is a racial comment
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: As I have black relatives by marraige, I completely agree with Freak. It's the same as using the term 'cotton pickin' ___' It is a racist comment, refering to their skin colour and ethnicity, and it is wrong.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: thank you panda.. atleast someone gets what im sayn...
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: *nods* It's true, it's just like when my brother used to call Chinese people...oh damn what was the term...It started with an 'N' or something. Anyways, he used it because he didn't like the way thet drove, and thought they were taking over jobs ain Canada(don't even ask, he is such a redneck) and It was just horrible, he didn't call them that because they were chinese, he called them that cause they couldn't drive, but he is taking a shot at their nationality, and it is just plan wrong.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: that iss wrong.. just by the way they drive??? i mean come on everyone drives different... i mean why cant every race get along??????!!!
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: There should only be one race, and that's man kind.
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Yup, let's ignore animals. Calling a racistname, isn't racist.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: yes it should.. only one kind of race.. and if that were to happen nothin like this would be happenin
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Kill all black people, and chinese and indians. Then there is one kind of race! You racistic bastards.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: thats not what we meant.... i said their should of been one type a race.. man kind... or what not.. i dont want it you know to be now b/c you cant change it...
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: like not killin NOBODY... but put everyone as a one nation all together... where the color of their skin is not a problem to no one and that it doesnt matter what their skin color is
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: There is one humanrace. Devided in gener, skincolour, haircolour, charachter, etc.
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: And we are saying, get rid of the dividers which cause hatred, fear and well, for lack of a better term, division. People can keep their individuality, but don't think of someone as Chinese, or America, or African, or Russian, think of then only as people, just ordinary people. I didn't say species did I? No, Race. I am not ignoring animals, but they can't be considered a race because they aren't the same species.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: yes but you dont get what i am trin to say here.. i mean that everyone HAS to relize that everyone is the same... you CANT judge people by their skin color
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Don't get rid of dividers, get rid of ignorance. That would be better. And easier. (Doesn't take away the fact that they are both impossible.)
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: Taking away the dividers IS taking away ignorance, it is the realization that we are ALL are EQUAL, and EQUAL absolutely does not mean the SAME.
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Mmm, if you want to take away the divider, then there should be one skincolour. So kill the blacks anyway?
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: true... Everyone is equal but still not the same.. but they are the same inwhich they are humans...
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: NO >.< Listen, you don't take away anything, you merely change the mine set which SEES these things as dividers, and realizes, black or white, christian or jew, we are all just people, all equal.
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: So like I said: get rid of ignorance. >.>
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: Which is EXACTLY what I said, before, sheesh, can you even read? And I quote "Taking away the dividers IS taking away ignorance,"
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: yes panda.. we are people dont take away what that person has and magicaly change them the same color and what not.. everyone is different... but most people see that as a threat... inwhich they need to learn maturity and see everyone as the same
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: Precisely Freak, you understand.
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: No, that isn't what you said. You said - and I'll quote -: get rid of the dividers which cause hatred => So make us all the same. Can't you even make clear what you say? But we aren't all the same. We deserve the same rights (and still) but we aren't "the same".
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: >.< *goes up to quote herself one more time* "we are ALL are EQUAL, and EQUAL absolutely does not mean the SAME" And the dividers, caused by ignorance, do cause hatred.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: we are the same.. as humans.. maybe not in skin color but we are the same HUMANS... i think panda was trin to say.. is get rid of the nonsence that people do and they it will all be alright
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: We are all humans. And their the comparison stops. Or wait: We are all mamels (spelling?) does that make us equal to a cat? Not the dividers cause hatred, ignorance does. You say it yourself. The dividers are caused by ignorance. The dividers cause hatred. 1+1=2 => Hatred is caused by ignorance. Take away that and their will be no more hatred.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: i believe everyone everything every animal should have the same "rights" ... the dividers are caused by so called ignorance that is why people need to look beyond the "dividers" and like eachother for who they are not by the "dividers"
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: Very good Kaynec, you are so clever, you can sum up my whole arguement, you know...I think my 6 year old cousin can do that. >.<
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: ^^*Is 5years old.* Anyway, can't I help it that your logic is a farce?
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: I hardly think my logic is a farce. I do not know if it is altogether possible, but we are making small steps in that direction, and even that is an improvement. Although I do not, altogether understand your meaning in relevance to that statement, but considering I don't really care, I think I shall be off for the day. Do have a good day you two, and best of luck. *tips hat*
2005-04-24 [Kayne]: Au revoir.
2005-04-24 [TwiztidYoshi03]: later panda...
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: Adieu
2005-04-24 [deus-ex-machina]: Oooookay, now that is pretty sad, when you can't even use the words. That is oppression, not equality. I can say 'nigger', because it has importance in society. Some people fail to realise that giving racial minorities 'treatment' only furthens hatred. For example, in the UK, we accept asylum seekers, but meanwhile, war veterans live homeless on the streets. Fair? Why accept asylum seekers? Because if the UK didn't, it would be deemed racist, which it wouldn't be. This issue of race has been taken too far. Political correctness will only continue to divide groups of people. Physical descrimination is wrong, so is delibrate mental abuse, but if you can't say 'nigger', 'spic', 'nip'... You are
2005-04-24 [deus-ex-machina]: being oppressed by the racial minorities and in the end, indirectly or purposefully, they become the racists.
2005-04-24 [Panda-monium]: That's the word, "Nipper." Gah, I hate that word...
2005-04-24 [deus-ex-machina]: Then you have the issue of positive racism. If people could do what they want, and not be accused of doing someone on the basis of race when it obviously wasn't (suddenly, beating up a black man is a race issue, when you hit him because he's been causing you misery for years), society would be closer. If you can't say the naughty words, you are dividing people and causing hatred. If you choose not to use them, that's fine and if they offend you, that's fine, but the whole point is, don't oppress people with your liberal views. I am not a racist, believe me, but I do not believe in equality. I believe in progress. Black people and white people and all the other racial minorities should not be
2005-04-24 [deus-ex-machina]: treated equally. In fact, it is the racial minorities, who, confident as they should be, practising the culture they were raised into, who stir racism. If you were to treat them anywhere near equally, you don't have equality... Equality is a farce. Equality is the worse thing that could be introduced. What we need, in terms of racism, is a good sense of humour, and a few bullets in the heads of people who believe it is right to physically or mentally abuse people. If I want to call someone a racist word, I will, because that's something to point out. Just like you'd call a fat person 'moobs' or something. It may or may not be offensive, but race is treated in a way it shouldn't be today.
2005-04-24 [deus-ex-machina]: Racism will always exist. It's been made illegal, and it's divided the countries of the world once again. The only way to get rid of racism is to make 'one race', ignoring colour, but considering the culture of people. It would be morally wrong to remove cultures from society. If people wish to have culture, we must also accept racism. Racism can be prevented in some cases... But sometimes, it's inevitable.
2005-04-24 [deus-ex-machina]: You can hound me down if you like, I doubt I've explained myself well, but I know what I mean. Further inquiring might help clarify my opinion. Basically, we shouldn't develop on what we have in society today, we need to change the very basis of race if we want racism to end. Today, with political correctness and the fear of being accused of being racist, those changes will never happen.
2005-05-26 [Ssapzyne Del'Armgo]: Hello... new member!
2005-05-26 [#1 AC/DC fan!!!]: it really suprises me that white superiority groups still exist today.I heard on the news the other day that some white superiority group called the police department and threatened to come and protest in front of the court house because they didnt think it was right that a man was sent to trial because of killing a black man.hell i know i woulda said then get the fuck down there so i can kill every one of u dumb sunzabitches!!
2005-05-26 [#1 AC/DC fan!!!]: violence is the key to solving all of your problem! J/K
2005-05-26 [Kayne]: Dude27, you do know you are a racist? Killing others for their believes makes you no less then/than the people with the believes.
2005-05-27 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: true ture im sorry but its all stupid really we are all the same really
2005-05-27 [kaeKae.]: I finally joined! i really am getting sick of seeing racism in my school...it just ticks me off....like theres this new girl from Pakistan, she can't even speak english...and everyone picks on her and calls her a terroist...jus
2005-05-27 [TwiztidYoshi03]: i got jumped for defending this dude that was from a different place... but hey i dont care... i go for whats right
2005-05-27 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: :S my school is pretty cool with different races...the ones that have a problem are the uncool ones lol
2005-05-27 [TwiztidYoshi03]: lol ohhh.... our school is the worst school in florida... damn ppl have rasicst fights... and all that shit... so fuckin wrong
2005-05-27 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: that would piss me off if pplz pulled that shit here we dont have a big racial difference here really only like 2 black in an all white school....but im friends with Janea shes awesome i love her lol the other is cool to but a litte cocky...like all the other football players lol
2005-05-27 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: and Janeas brother is my nephew-in-law lol
2005-05-27 [TwiztidYoshi03]: lol ohh.... just glad u anit at my school
2005-05-27 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: lol yea true i would probably be murdered
2005-05-27 [TwiztidYoshi03]: ya u might.... see well the only "cool" people per say what other ppl think... is that the preps suck and they are gonna die... whites are against blacks... blacks are against puerticans... its just hell ova here
2005-05-27 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: wow thats not good:S
2005-05-27 [TwiztidYoshi03]: lol i know it anit
2005-05-27 [BaBiiPhAtGrL09]: ilove all races and spanish pl r so hot!lol.its just annoying that ppl dont like u b/c of the color of ur skin,its just stupid,wat if a white person got a tan?and they were like really black,then pl will just b like,thinking ur black,imean its the personality that counts,,,,appe
2005-05-27 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: i argee with you Ghetto but its life and life is a bitch lol
2005-05-29 [Insanelife]: yeah, I agree to, and life really does suck sometimes, especially when people mess with you because you try and include everyone or your trying to be nice to someone who is considered a social outcast by the "COOL" kids.
2005-05-29 [TwiztidYoshi03]: well at my school the "cool" kids are the ones that get set aside.... lol b/c they are the preps
2005-05-29 [Insanelife]: lol, my school is pretty preppy, we don't have many different cultures at my school, we are the minority. It's like a right of passage for the preps to make fun of us, but thats ok, cause then we get to laugh at them for being assholes, which can be fun if your having a bad day.
2005-05-29 [TwiztidYoshi03]: ya it can... im just glad i anit a prep... i dont like them...
2005-05-29 [Insanelife]: agreed
2005-05-29 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: does anti racism count as anti lables like in school? like preps or goths?
2005-05-30 [TwiztidYoshi03]: well then... i dunno... cuz i hate preps b/c they think they are alwayz better then everyone...
2005-05-30 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: yeah but i mean someone said i was racist and i didnt know if we talked about that on here so I thought I'd bring it up...they called me racist cause I called someone a prepy bitch! LoL ^_^
2005-05-30 [TwiztidYoshi03]: ehh well i dont think its racist
2005-05-30 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: me neither...i was just wondering
2005-05-30 [TwiztidYoshi03]: ohhh lol
2005-05-30 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: lol ^_^
2005-05-30 [BaBiiPhAtGrL09]: the skool im leaving was very diverst but most ppl were preppy or laid back type,and some urban but the preps were annoying and "un"cool,they thought they were koel but hardly nebdy liked them c/ they ere like,backstabb
2005-05-30 [~*~Tinkerbell~*~]: im considered to be kinda a prep freak:(
2005-05-30 [TwiztidYoshi03]: but ur not a prep to me.... plus i luv ya so i dont really consider u as one :P
2005-05-30 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: to everyone in school I am that one poser gothic punk wiccan freak. Everyone calls me a poser but no one really looks like me that I could possibly be posing off of! LoL whatever I frankly do not care anymore
2005-05-30 [TwiztidYoshi03]: lol at school im a freak *points at name* get me got me good.... so sex me.... lol... but i am a freak a sex freak....
2005-05-30 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: ok then....yeah..
2005-05-30 [Aiel]: Racism isn´t built on hating, you should all learn about it before you say anything. Racism, per definition, is the belief that there are different races, not saying that any of them should be any better than the other. Then there is the common belief that all racists want to kill every other races, which mostly isn´t true. It is true though, that many racists want to separate races, but not because of hate, it´s because anyone with eyes should be able to see that fights will start because of different cultures and beliefs, and because different races has developed differently because they form into a shape that is better fit for the land they live in, mixing races goes against evolution.
2005-05-30 [Insanelife]: yeah, but evolution is also bull, but thats just my opinion, and whats wrong with mixing races? Just because people come from different backgrounds doesn't mean they can't get along. and actually, rasicm per definition, and this is taken out of the dictionary is The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. also Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
2005-05-30 [TwiztidYoshi03]: why cant we all just be cows then there would be hatetered in all the races..... *moo*
2005-05-30 [sapphiresphinx]: Actually, mixing races fits right in with evolution. If you're one of the people that believes that all people of a certain race are going to have similar strengths and weaknesses, that could be a definite downfall, and it would be much better to mix races so that everyone had different strengths and weaknesses. Plus evolution whether it's bull or not has nothing to do with mixing of races unless you're just trying to justify racism which is the obvious use for that here.
2005-05-30 [¤ WORLDS ¤happiest¤ EMO ¤™]: I agree with sapphire!
2005-05-31 [Insanelife]: well put sapphire
2005-05-31 [Sagacious Turkey]: yeah! *hasn't read what sapphire said, yet*
2005-05-31 [BaBiiPhAtGrL09]: aren't u so intelligent?:p
2005-05-31 [Sagacious Turkey]: why yes! I am!
2005-06-22 [Panda-monium]: hmmm