2007-01-09 [Hedda]: Generally it's a bad place to start the work. Those wire frames suck badly if you can't write the information in all the places. But it's good to make the pages steal ideas from each other and have about the same format. But no "no history about this creature is written yet", and similar non-informative stuff.

We have Pegasus which makes a pretty useful rule-model to use for other pages. But the pages still have to be written. Then it's pretty easy to reformat them, if needed.

2007-01-09 [Linn Scarlett]: I ment it more like, maybe make three rough groups in which information is given, or in the general same line basics-specifics-extras-pictures or something *wonders if she's understandable*

2007-01-09 [Hedda]: I'm not against that, but I'm afraid that we'll get pages that only describe non-existing information. The format used should be the standard used on all wikis (as in: All wiki-systems, not only Elftown):

Title

The main image, if any.

A short text describing it.

A more extensive text or links to sub-pages.

Links to related wiki-pages and external sites.

The sub-pages could of course use the same ideas on many different pages, but it's not needed. If it's pegasus history but dragons in the history don't really matter. The ones writing on the creature pages should probably adjust the normal standard to their specific creature, or to the information available.

2007-01-09 [Hedda]: Most importantly: There should be no sub-pages or sections without information!

2007-01-10 [xido]: Thank you, Hedda, and yes, that is VERY helpful. This page will soon be revamped in full, so we will have the most rockin beasties page on the web. ;)

I love the discussion on the serpent idea. I did not know that I would set off a discussion like that. It is nice. It reminds me of my school discussions, which makes me happy.

I have begun going to each page and both watching it, and making notes of what is and is not included on it, and all pages will be reformatted to take on the new title, The Creature List, as per recommendations and Angel's final call. I will make sure that all pages are formatted to observe this fact.
-will

2007-01-10 [Linn Scarlett]: *cheers* tell me when I can do some work *leans on shovel*

2007-01-21 [Angel Dreamer]: samodiva added

2007-01-22 [xido]: To Linn: Feel free to add any content you wish to any current pages, and if you add a new page, please add it to both this page and The Creature List, as both will be utilized for full access to this List. Also, both links should be placed on the Creature Pages, for easy access.

2007-01-22 [xido]: Angel, my darling, could you change the page for Non-Elftowners to Comment on the page? I added keywords, and that should make it even more approachable by web viewers too. ;)

This page will continue to be the main page until the other one is completely renovated to be formatted (bullets based on content, keywords added, etc.) All Creature Pages will say:
'Back to Creature_List / The Creature List'

2007-01-22 [iippo]: So instead of making up your mind as to what page you want to use for real, you'll make the workers update two pages instead of one (not to mention having to add the new linking system to all the creatures wikis), make the watchers get update notices for the same thing twice and scatter the information and conversation in the comments across two pages? >.< I know it feels cool to keep the final wiki hidden until you've worked out the kinks and such, but in all honesty it's a bit... annoying. Why can't you just pick either wiki and close the other one? >.<

2007-01-22 [Angel Dreamer]: If all of the creatures are on The Creature List, I don't see why we shouldn't just update it and take the main list of creatures off of here. It's a self-confessed work in progress, and if Teh Internets don't like it they can deal.

2007-01-23 [xido]: To iippo: The creatures will only be listed in full on The Creature List when all is complete, and this page will be a welcome mat, with rules and info on it, plus the links to hop over to the main list page. This page will keep all the creatures on it until each page is analyzed for how much and what kind of content it has on it (bullets designating that info are on the other page).

I was told by Hedda that all pages like this should remain open, active, and appearing as complete as possible until they are finalized. That is why the list of creatures is still posted here until all pages have been looked at and bulleted, based on their content. I am doing it that way because this page is the one currently listed as the main page. And no, after all is finished, mods will only need to add creatures to The Creature List, while this page will be exclusively informational.

Please be patient with me. This is a long process. :/
-will

2007-01-23 [Lady of Lore]: I have a question on the beasties and things we can have in the list, where can we get thier descriptions etc of them? I mean what are sources that are credited that we are allowed to use? From books such as The Shanarra series by Terry Brooks, Abhorsen by Garth Nix....etc... as well as the monsters included in Forgotten Realms books? Sorry if what I'm saying is a little confusing...there are many creatures i could help create a listing for but I want to be sure what creatures can fit and what ones don't...

Ex. In the Garth Nix books there are creatures called Stilkens...a shape changer of sorts who has the arms of a praying mantis, the face of a beautiful woman and the teeth of a very hungry scary bug... but the Stilken has only been used, as far as I know, in Garth Nix's books so may be his original idea...would the Stilken fit here or would it be a violation of a copyright or something.
Thanks
[Lady of Lore]

2007-01-23 [xido]: PS to Angel - we do not have to add the * or italics to this page anymore. All of those (outdated) tags were removed on the other page, to be re-evaluated and bulleted. ;)

Sorry, to interrupt without answering, [Lady of Lore], but I am not sure the restrictions of definition that Angel considers a "fantasy" creature, so long as it is not from Star Wars....  But then, does that count as fantasy too, or simply Sci-Fi?

2007-01-23 [Angel Dreamer]: If it does not actually exist in the real world, then it belongs on this list. The 'normal' animals on here are included based solely on their magical/mythical properties (ie, salamanders supposedly causing/living in fires). Given that several of the creatures are from the works of a single author (like Rowling), then I see no reason the Stilken wouldn't fit right in. 

2007-01-23 [Lady of Lore]: Hmm....guess I'll wait and see what others say. Thanks xido.

2007-01-23 [xido]: You must have both commented at the same time. Lady, I think she answered you pretty fully there. ;)
-will

2007-01-23 [Lady of Lore]: Lol, cool then. I'll gather up info on the Gath Nix creatures then ^_^

2007-02-02 [Lady of Lore]: Alrighty, Stilken's done and i sent the info and citation to Angel Dreamer ^^ More creatures to come.... Is it better to make a page ourselves or send the info in a message?

2007-02-03 [Angel Dreamer]: It's best to send it, really. The message I got was perfect :)

2007-02-04 [Lady of Lore]: Ok, great ^__^ I shall continue to follow that method then/